03-03-2001 10:22									#1
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well

what happens exactly when there is a global warming???

does any of you have a sav file to see what happens???

thanks

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	03-03-2001 00:13									#2
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AFAIK, the coastline stats turning into jungels and swamps.

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	03-03-2001 01:46									#3
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I don't have the saved game any more, but I let my pollution accumulate one time just to see what happened. The coastline gets changed and inland tiles (some but not all) change to grassland and desert. If you leave the pollution alone, global warming effects occur again after several turns. Eventually you end up with a desert/grassland/mountain planet with little ocean and your citizens all starve to death because of the lack of arable farm land.

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	03-03-2001 03:13									#4
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hummmm

that´s interesting

so how do I do that
lots of cities and a lot of pollution????
how many turns do I need???
I´ll try to do that game myself

but if any of you have a sav file I would really appreciatte

	03-03-2001 07:00									#5
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If you built an ARMY of engineers and keep your granarys bursting its just about possible to survive it with some sort of civilisation left at the end of it all, then march on Arrakis!

	03-03-2001 08:44									#6
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Global Warming can occur up to once every ten turns.

Terrain is converted in stripes (ya have to se it to know what I mean).

Grasslands become Plains
Plains become Deserts
Forests become Jungles
Land near the coast becomes swamp

Hills, Mountains, Tundra, and Glacier are unaffected.

	03-03-2001 17:13									#7
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You should also note that terrain, meaning grassland, prairie and desert, that has swamp as it neighbour will eventually also turn into swamp.

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	06-03-2001 10:39									#8
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Yah, it's pretty rough in Civ 2. Some (but not all) terrain squares are changed ... for the worse.

As William Keenan noted, interior flat land is converted to drier types (grassland --> plain --> desert). This happens in short parallel stripes (as if some giant demon scratched claw marks into the earth).

Also, as Qin Shihuangdi notes, the coastlines get wetter - I guess due to global warming melting the ice caps and flooding the coasts (no land squares become water however). The coasts become jungle and swamp (pretty unworkable).

I think (and it's only happened to me once so forgive me this lapse) that my terrain improvements were destroyed in affected squares (i.e. if a grassland square turned into a plains square, I lost any irrigation in that square too).

As you might imagine, your food production plummets. If you ever find yourself in this situation, it will take a LOT of effort (as johnmcd points out) to "rebuild". For a few turns all of your cities will starve. The best short term solution is harbors in your coastal cities as it will be a while before you can re-irrigate and hack through all that jungle/swamp.

Sorry, I don't have a save file for you, Shaka Naldur.

If you want to do it on purpose - I'd suggest using a saved game were you have nuclear weapons. They'll be faster at making pollution than (but could probably be augmented with) a bunch of shield producing cities with factories and some messy coal burning power plants. You need some patience - even with a lot of polluted squares it can take many turns for global warming to actually kick in.

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	06-03-2001 02:34									#9
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Wasn't someone trying to make a scenario where you were on an "ice" world, and you wanted to get global warming? It involveds changeing the squares around so that something that was originally grassland in the normal game uould become glacier, and whatever it would change too would then be better terrain. A good idea if you ask me.

	06-03-2001 06:52									#11
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I hardly ever played it - but wasn't the Mars! scenario that came on FW like that (beneficial warming?).

One scenario where global warming is rife is the After the Apocalypse that came with CiC. My humble observations of this game were uploaded in The Art of War.

	07-03-2001 01:59									#12
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hmm, let me see if I have my save game.

I called it nuke world.

I just kept nuking, and nuking. almost every square was jungle, swamp, desert, hill, or mountains (besides ocean squares of course)

	07-03-2001 02:03									#13
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hmm I can't find it.

well play the ww79 scenario in conflicts as the chinese and watch the fireworks.

I tried beating the game as the Chinese (ie taking every city), but it was a struggle for my engineers to clear all the swamp and jungle from my coastline. When playing the US or USSR I can declare piece immediately and build up 20 howies and take most of the country in a few turns thus mimizing the nuking going on. But this is not possible with China (I think they start with only 1 howie!)