04-02-2002 18:22									#121
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quote: Originally posted by techumseh Now those are good! What are they for?

They are for a scenario based on the "Vault of the Drow" AD&D module by Gary Gygax. I've wanted to create this ever since I discovered Civ scenario creation. Until ToT came along it wasn't technically possible to do it with the depth and flavor that I feel the subject deserves.

btw Techumseh, it was your teaching me how to do realistic underworld landscaping (via LotR) that was the catalyst for this project.

quote: Originally posted by ravagon Those are the best Underdarkers I've ever seen!! What's the one in the middle though? Some kind of Alien Intelligence?

Thanks Ravagon. I can't take full credit however, as I found the base art on the net. It was originally ripped from an SSI game I think.

The Xorn, the image in the middle, is an earth elemental creature that comes to the prime material to feed on precious metals and ores.

The Illithid (mind flayer) should be purpleish in color but purple is a tricky color to work with in civ, so I take poetic licence.

	05-02-2002 05:00									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Soundwave Well where are they? Not to be a pain, but they ain't right, sorry guys, i just like historical units to look the way they are, or were!

So you want camo SS infantry units to be made?

If you want, I could make more of them.

	05-02-2002 05:05									#123
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Yea i would, with different weapons, MG-34, MG42, Mp-40, Mp-38, Stg-44, Gehwer 98, and normal rifle... and even russian weapons!

I wanna make a scenario now about the Waffen SS

	05-02-2002 05:56									#124
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The difference between the Mp38 and the Mp40 was a change to the firing pin. Not much difference to be draw there. Also, by Gewer'98 are you meaning the Kar'98 (Karbiner/Carbine)... the rifle, or is there a gewer'98 that I don't know about?

-FMK.

	05-02-2002 06:02									#125
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The Kar' 98 was the standard bolt action rifle

the gewher '98 was like the American Grand M1 is was semi-auto in a sense

	05-02-2002 07:22									#126
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Sure, I'll take it on. But there is no rush right?

	05-02-2002 09:26									#127
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Soundwave, I did a little checking up for you. You might want to consult some more sources because these SS uniforms here are far from all cammo. These might help you too ANZAC.

edited to speed up page loading. They can be found at http://www.skalman.nu

Changing cammo a bit here and there isn't terribly hard to do. Especially with those patterns above. Give it a try, play around a bit. Do what you think is best though for you scenario desires. Is your command going to be seperate from a German Army (possibly AI) civ? A scen 'about the SS' sounds pretty interesting. Care to share some more?

-FMK.

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	05-02-2002 10:58									#128
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Hmm you relize that most of the uniforms, are for dress, not actual combat troop uniforms... i have consulted my sources LOL, many historical sites.

(but thanks anyway)

About the Scenario:- I wish to create one, involving SS Combat units and the miltary districts (i think Hamburg was one and others, including Bleorussia). And the combat that they went through e.g. eastern front, d-day, italy, romania...last offcenses such as Relief of Berlin, Vienna and Budapest....

	05-02-2002 11:11									#129
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Soundwave- referring to that picture you posted, to me it looks a hell of a lot like he is wearing a smock and the pants equivalant over his uniform. One thing you need to remember is that during WWI all of the countries involved used the same uniforms for both combat and dress. It was very unpractical, but it was cheaper. After WWI, Germany was the only country not to change this practice. They may have been more advanced tactically, but they were behind in the region of the common foot soldier. They still used the Kar'98, the potato masher grenade, and the same uniforms from twenty years earlier. I think I have babbled long enough.

	05-02-2002 11:16									#130
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It would be nice to see some in the smocks though.

	05-02-2002 21:37									#131
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******* Warning *********

Pictures of Natzi uniforms.


Everyone in France, close your eyes!

	07-02-2002 01:40									#132
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Canadians, close your eyes, too... SS Hitlerjugend, Normandy 1944 - equipped with italian uniforms.

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	07-02-2002 07:48									#133
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YAY Waffen SS! lol

They are very good uniforms, i'll have to ask anzac or case about creating some SS units, i haven't got the time anymore!

	08-02-2002 06:02									#134
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Winterfritz: Good to see you posted it! The PT-76 is coming up as soon as I can get a look at a Solido model.

Soundwave: I can't start on the SS yet because I'm pretty busy right now, I'll do it when I can.

	11-02-2002 00:01									#135
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I like the Port graphic, iwth the AA guns in the background excellent hehehe... can i used this in a up coming secnario for the WaffenSS???

	11-02-2002 13:04									#136
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Aherm, Soundwave...

What's the graphic you're talking about? I can't see anything on my PC screen...

	11-02-2002 19:21									#137
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@Soundwave: If needed, I could help you with the scn about the Waffen SS, because I've got a book about the Waffen SS with the names of all the Divisions of the Waffen SS, the leaders of the single divisions, the names of the "foreign" SS-Divisions and from what country the Waffen SS recruited soldiers and with timelines about the history of the Waffen SS in it.

Just write, if I can help you.

	11-02-2002 23:51									#138
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Thanks.. i'll take some advice and help..

Over the years i have been a bit of an SS Fanatic, i have 5 Books on them and about 7 thick WW2 books, and lots more history books.. cant you tell i majored in hostory? But i'll take help and advice as well coz i dont wanna get anything wrong LOL

	18-02-2002 18:51									#139
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Case: what kind of tank is the South African one?

	18-02-2002 20:01									#140
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It looks vaguely like a Centurion.

	19-02-2002 00:55									#141
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson It looks vaguely like a Centurion.

I know he edited it off Jimmy's Centurion. maybe a variant? Or a different tank all together.

	19-02-2002 02:37									#142
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quote: Originally posted by The ANZAC I know he edited it off Jimmy's Centurion. maybe a variant? Or a different tank all together.

Definitely this tank is a variant. South Africans developed it in apartheid times. Knak colour requested, i think.

	19-02-2002 03:16									#143
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Full marks to Prom - its a South African Olifant Tank. This was basically an improved version of the Centurian developed by the Apartied era South Africans when the arms embargo prevented them from getting new tanks. From memory it had a new turrent and a 105 mm Gun.

	19-02-2002 11:53									#144
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Case- are you giving us a hint to a work in progress with the S. African units?

	19-02-2002 16:01									#145
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quote: Originally posted by Jimmywax Case- are you giving us a hint to a work in progress with the S. African units?

Yes and no
They're for the modern African scenario I mentioned on Civfanatics, but I can't get really motivated to complete it

If anyone wants to take it over, give me a shout... (I've done about half of the city placements, and have lots of unit types ready to go)

	23-02-2002 19:06									#146
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A little late, but *bump* for Thoddy.

	26-02-2002 00:39									#147
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Thats perfect!!!

The 'rough and dirty' look wasn't on purpose... and it didnt jive well with the nice nemo gfx. However... I think I will include the old version for the terrain later in the scen.. for when the factories get a little more abused. This one you did will be the factories prior to the assault. That is perfect though. I absolutely love it. Thank you so very much.

*runs to try out his tasty new factory*

-FMK.

	01-03-2002 10:23									#148
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Nice Case!!

	01-03-2002 10:26									#149
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I forgot to ask, can anyone do a winter stuka, there colour shceme was white/grey with a dirty green

	01-03-2002 20:15									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Case Here's a winterised KV. I'll have a go at the B-10 later

Perfectamundo my friend! How the hell do you do these so well? I have tried many a time, but I get so overwhelmed with the 437 different shades of white. I can never seem to keep it straight during the painting process... just too many damn shades. That is absolutely perfect though. It's riding right in my winter units file as we speak.

-FMK.