02-09-2001 10:37									#1
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I have been playing a slogro game with the barbarian wrath setting. this is interesting because barbs show up every now and then and almost nobody is equipped to deal with them. Every few turns some civ gets destroyed and its color reappears.

anyway, I got these two popups in a row one turn:

"Zulu civilization destroyed by Spanish"

and

"Zulu civilization destroyed by Barbarians"

so... who destroyed the Zulus, anyway?

	02-09-2001 11:40									#2
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Yup. Always happens to me.

	02-09-2001 13:25									#3
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don't you get the same thing when using the cheat-option to wipe out a civ??

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	03-09-2001 19:31									#4
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Yup, a bug. There are quite a few of these still in v 2.78. See the thread Mongols land AC, I win por another example

(Nice way I found to inter-link two threads)

	03-09-2001 20:19									#5
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I've seen this many times. It happens when the civ that gets destroyed has no cities. In your case, the Zulu settler(s) got killed by the barbarous Spaniards before they could settle. It sounds like they got placed adjacent to a spanish unit.

Does anybody know if this also happens if the restart civ settles, but then has their city captured before any unit is built to defend?

	12-09-2001 22:33									#6
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The wrath of the barbarians - there is no mercy.

	12-09-2001 23:25									#7
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Actually, this bug is is of a higher order than the regular bug. The rumor you get "Zulus destroyed by ..." the first time may be based on their last or only city falling. The second one then would be the more traditional killing of the last settler. Settlers won't settle whan shadowed by units, while the program seems to report death when the civ has no cities and no settlers that can settle. For a civ to be officially dead, i.e., off the power graph, the last settler must also be gone from the map.


unofficially dead settler

	14-09-2001 18:17									#8
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I think this "... destroyed by Barbarians" always appears when there are still (NON) units walking around after the last city is destroyed. When the game engine finds out a civ has no more cities, but still units, it wipes out the last traces of the civ. That causes this message to appear.
It isnīt necessarily related to the initial settlers, I think.
It also happens in ToT.

	14-09-2001 19:21									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq Does anybody know if this also happens if the restart civ settles, but then has their city captured before any unit is built to defend?

I think so.