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This trash talking 2 bit dope dealer is about to learn respect for the law
Jan 2001
time: 05:15
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Yes! Its true !!! Fielding armys in Civ3 is going to be alot more difficult then we all think 
You must now control resources in order to field an army. E.G., A civ Must have 3 of the following in a certain quantity to field 1 tank unit. 1 Oil Resource,1 Rubber resource, and 1 Iron Resource...just to field a tank (as I understand)! Another example, in order to make Chariots, one must have a Horses resource! And from what ive heard, 1 resource is not infinity, so if you want to build 2 tanks. If you want to field 2 tanks, you need 2 Iron,Rubber, and Oil. Tho Im not sure how abundant the resources are, im sure its not impossible.... Thus now you must find a way to get more!
My god this sounds GREAT! So any old person, CANNOT build any old unit. You just cant churn things out endlessly...They must ever expand there resource base in order to field such massive armys. Guys I really like the way firaxis designed this system!
This looks REAL good.... Tho PBEM has not been confirmed yet  (atleast not that ive read)
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This trash talking 2 bit dope dealer is about to learn respect for the law
Jan 2001
time: 05:15
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here is where I read it (gamespot)
Firaxis is focusing much of its efforts on creating a much more dynamic and entertaining trade system than the one found in previous games. "Trade was really abstract in the two [previous Civilization] games," Briggs says. "You would build caravans and move them yourself from city to city, moving them in the right place. I thought that was cumbersome." To change all of that, Firaxis is implementing two different types of resources - luxury items and strategic resources - and depending on the strategy, a player will want to make a concerted effort to control as many resources as possible. If they don't control as many valuable resources as other civilizations then they can either take them by force or establish strong trade relations. "Suppose I have four elephants and my friend the Egyptian has no elephants - they want the elephants because they make people happy," Briggs explains. "The whole luxury slider aspect to the game has been consumed by this trade system." And it doesn't stop at elephants. As a civilization grows by expanding its road system, more and more luxury items become available, civilians are happier, and it's much easier to establish trade with lesser civilizations by offering the luxury items in exchange for a variety of things, including technology. Strategic resources are secured in the same fashion. If a player sees a resource within their territory, all they have to do is build a road to those resources and they will have immediate access to it.
But strategic resources serve a different purpose then luxury items as the type of resources a player has access to, determine the units they can build. Basically, players can't build swordsmen if they don't have access to iron, nor can they build units such as tanks if they don't have control over iron, oil, and rubber. "It becomes a real game of trying to corner the market on certain resources, so that you can be a power broker among the other civilizations," Briggs says. "If you have complete control over iron, you're the only one with swordsmen, so you can pretty much dominate." Though it may seem incredibly unfair for one civilization to have complete control over iron, there are a few ways to prevent complete domination during the course of the game. If the iron-controlling civilization wants to build tanks, they need oil, rubber, and iron, but if those other resources are controlled by two other civilizations then they must be careful. If the dominant iron civilization enters into the rubber-controlling civilization, then the oil civilization may see that as a potential threat and ally with the rubber-controlling civilization to fight off the invasion. It's also equally possible to setup trade and live in peace with the other civilizations until a suitable number of tanks are built and then start a war, but again, other civilizations can protect themselves against that by either destroying roads and cutting off supply lines of iron, or just by making smart diplomatic decisions.
Needless to say, strategic resources and luxury items are integral part of Civilization III, and they help to illustrate how various aspects of the game - such as diplomacy, war, and trade - are all intertwined.
Since so many of the new features can ignite confrontations between civilizations, diplomacy in Civilization has been made more robust to accommodate different situations. In addition to the options in the previous games, like peace treaties, acts of war, and technology exchanges, there are a number of new options to choose from in Civilization III. At the most basic diplomatic level, Civilizations can exchange luxuries, technology, and resources. There are also military alliances, mutual protection pacts, rights of passage, and options to gain information on other civilizations. "The thing about [diplomacy] is that it doesn't have to be eggs for eggs," Briggs says. "I can trade a technology and a world map for a diplomatic agreement, or for some gold and information. There is a huge number of different combinations to choose from." Interestingly, technology has more of an influence on diplomacy as well because diplomatic and trade agreements cannot be made unless a civilization has the writing skill. Individual leader personalities come into play as well, so a leader of one civilization will act different to certain diplomatic situations than others, forcing players to change their diplomatic strategy when encountering new civilizations. Advisors are incredibly helpful in Civilization III as they give players advice and access to the Civlopedia.
While some of the older features are getting overhauled, some of the new features have yet to be completely implemented - one such feature is the Great Leader unit. After a successful military campaign, some units will receive a promotion to Great Leader status, which means that a player can use them to construct a military academy, resulting in a stronger and more balanced army. Players can also use the Great Leader unit as an army itself because it's possible to group additional units within the Great Leader unit. The military side of the Great Leader unit is in place, but Firaxis is still currently debating whether or not to apply it to other areas of the civilization other then just the military. Another feature that still isn't in the game as of yet is multiplayer. Firaxis is still deciding how they want to incorporate multiplayer game, but before they do, the development team wants to make sure that Civilization's III single player mode is as good as it could possibly be. Most of the work on the visual side of Civilization III seems to be near completion.
Firaxis has made a few subtle adjustments to clean up various interfaces so that they don't break a player's connection to the game. The city management screen only takes up a small portion of the screen, keeping most of the actual game in view. Players can also queue up items in the technology-tree screens so that the menu doesn't appear after every few turns, but if necessary, it's possible to change the queue and learn different skills. As far as actual graphics are concerned, in the two years Firaxis has been working on the Civilization III, the art team has produced over 12,000 tiles to give map screens a much smoother and natural look, and now all units are in full three-dimensions, giving them much more detail and personality than they ever had in previous games. But perhaps the most impressive visuals are the new city-views that give players a detailed look at all of the different types of structures within a city
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:15
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Thanks Saddam, for reminding me! Damn, it's really so close! Can't believe I'm going to play Civ 3 in just over a month. Though, as we approach the release date so much, I get a little bit less excited about Civ 3. But it's still very promising, if only I'll get it to work on my damn monitor, will need to some hacking. Those Firaxians ain't as good as they seem.
Oh, and yes, I don't think we should pay for multiplayer. I will for sure download the Multiplayer patch, if such comes, in spring, but if the 'Multiplayer Edition' will be in another box, costing 30$, I won't be getting it, or at least not till it becomes very cheap. Asking money for a feauture! They could just as well not include the single player mode, and say it will come later.
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Boney
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Thailand
Jan 2001
time: 05:15
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I don't want to rant and rave about exploitation. Microsoft are still the kings of that.
But here in Thailand there is the computing 'Alladin's cave', it is a shopping center called pantip plaza. It is an unbelievable place, 5 floors of wall to wall computing. hardware, software, repair shops, it has almost everything. 128mb RAM chips are now 20us$.
For software and games, usually I prefer to have the real thing as manuals and other printables come with them. But often I will buy the cheap copy, 4us$, to make sure it is any good. For some games such as CM (championship manager, english football game) I have no qualms abut buying the copy. This is because it is re-released every year up-dated, for the same price. In reality they could leave downloadable patches on their web site for updates.
When a company like firaxis tries to exploit I will happily go and buy the copy. In fact I can often not tell the differce between the copy and real thing in appearance. But when the disc is open the copy usually will have a no CD crack too!!!!
oh well ce'st la vie
one last thing. My heart goes out to all the victims of the 11th, and would like to offer my support for the US people in such troubling times. All my problems now seem so insignificant.
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02-09-2001 07:56
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isn't it more realistic this way?
You know, if people had to wait 6 months to buy the wheels for their new car, and it cost half the price of the car, people wouldn't do business with them. Unfortunately, no one else makes CivIII, so we're completely buggered!! 
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