04-09-2001 08:17									#1
	Minor Wonders and Civ 2 wonders that are wonders no more Tired of ads?

More or less, basically, for all intentions and purposes Confirmed* Minor Wonders in Civ 3 out of a possible 24
-Ironworks
-Heroic Epic
-Grand Cathedral
-Great University
-Military Academy
-CIA
-Internet


Can anyone else help me out here? These are the only ones that come to mind.
In past threads there has been much discussion in terms of Civ 2 wonders that would made into generic minor wonders. So with the confirmation of Grand Cathedral and Great University as Minor Wonders, it's safe to say good bye to Newton's College and J.S Bach's Cathedral. It's too bad really, i'm actually was quite fond of both of those wonders, being a big fan of Bach's oldschool phat beats (Fugue in G Minor baby!) and Newton had one of the cooler wonder movies (that little red apple at the end was so poetic!).
It will be interesting to see any posssible new Major Wonders, as there being only 12, they are going to be rather limited, if they are still going to keep some of the classics.

*Note "confirmed" in this context means "kind of, indirectly confirmed"

*Edited to appease Lady Ribbanah *

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	04-09-2001 08:33									#2
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I have heard of a Great Canal being in the game, but haven't seen confirmation of this from Fireaxis.

	04-09-2001 11:20									#3
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I think I remember reading that the Pentagon is a minor wonder and is in the game

	04-09-2001 11:43									#4
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I am wondering whether the minor (small) wonders will have generic names (i.e. just "great epic") or will they have different name in different civilisation - so we would have "Ramayana" in India, "Chanson de Roland" in France or "Illias" by Homer in Greece.

I think it would be cool and not so hard to implement (like the titles of monatchs in Civ2). FIRAXIS please make it so

	04-09-2001 12:51									#5
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The Pentagon is a minor wonder.

	04-09-2001 14:38									#6
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Confirmed Minor Wonders in Civ 3 out of a possible 24 -Ironworks -Heroic Epic -Grand Cathedral -Great University -Military Academy -CIA -Internet Can anyone else help me out here?

If you say confirmed, please give your source!
So far I have only read about Ironworks, Heroic Epic and CIA as minor wonders, possibly also the Trading Company which is the ony one that can be seen as being built in one of the screens.

	04-09-2001 14:45									#7
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correct me if i am wrong, but i believe the manhatten project (or some form of it) is also a minor wonder.

	05-09-2001 11:50									#8
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Fair enough Madam Ribannah!
10 out of a possible 24
-Ironworks- (as cited by CG article)
-Heroic Epic (as cited by CG article)
-Grand Cathedral (as cited by CG article)
-Great University (as cited by CG article)
-Military Academy (as cited by CG article)
-CIA (Gencon demo)
-Internet (this one i can't recall exactly where i read this one, can anyone back me up?)
-Trading Company (Screenshots)
-Great Canal (old interview, does anyone know the location any more)
-Manhattan Project (possible interview as well?)
-Pentagon (interviews, message board posts perhaps)

Granted my documenting sources are amateurish at best, but that's a little better at least, do you not agree my fellow Hiawatha lover?

In any event, some of these fall under the "common knowledge" category in a way. That's to say, we know they are in the game, but we can't remember where we got that info.
Are there any others that I have failed to list? After putting some heads together we have nearly compiled a list of half of the wonders presumably appearing in the game!
Good work my fellow Apolytonites!

	05-09-2001 12:36									#9
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I remember to have read somewhere that the Apollo Program and The Great Wall are also minor wonders but I cannot cite a specific source

	05-09-2001 12:51									#10
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider -Pentagon (interviews, message board posts perhaps)

There is a screenshot of a city view in which the Pentagon is clearly visible.

	05-09-2001 16:49									#11
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Yep, and it's big and outside the city, and has a unique name, all of which suggests it is a major wonder, not a small one.

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quote: Originally posted by monkspider -Grand Cathedral (as cited by CG article) -Great University (as cited by CG article) -Military Academy (as cited by CG article)

Since I haven't seen this Computer Gaming Magazine , could you give some quotes? Maybe someone can scan the article - no wait, that would be illegal.

	06-09-2001 08:03									#13
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Hey Rib,
I tried my best to scan it. You can kind of make out Grand Cathedral in the lower right hand corner as what is being built. Great University however, which is being built by one of the other cities on the screen is virtually impossible to make out.
Sorry!
http://moonpies0.tripod.com/minorwonders.jpg

	06-09-2001 14:32									#14
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I guess the 'Solar System' (http://www.civfanatics.com/cgi-bin/.../16-16-2225.jpg) is also a minor wonder.