06-09-2001 09:10									#1
	Server Too Busy !?! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I have never encountered that on ACS before, but in the last two days it occurred 3 times. Dan, you should get on top of things and get those excuses for tech support to fix the servers ASAP.

	06-09-2001 09:12									#2
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1. I've gotten it too.

2. Seems like people are starting to join my point of view on the technicians...

	06-09-2001 10:12									#3
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it's a feature of vbulletin that we've enable a couple of days ago

in some occassions it could help from having more problems.

it's not like anything is lost. just wait a couple of seconds and reload.

	06-09-2001 10:20									#4
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG it's a feature of vbulletin that we've enable a couple of days ago in some occassions it could help from having more problems. it's not like anything is lost. just wait a couple of seconds and reload.

I'm not sure if he's kidding or not.

	06-09-2001 10:26									#5
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

what do you prefer? waiting a few seconds or waiting a few hours?

	06-09-2001 10:43									#6
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Okay...I didn't say it was necessarily not valid...it's just that the word "feature" has become a bit of a joke around here.

	06-09-2001 19:45									#7
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG what do you prefer? waiting a few seconds or waiting a few hours?

Markos, are you saying that the server's going to crash if the number of users aren't somehow limited?

IIRC the box has dual PIII. It should be able to handle a couple of hundreds of users eaily...

	06-09-2001 19:50									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Markos, are you saying that the server's going to crash if the number of users aren't somehow limited? IIRC the box has dual PIII. It should be able to handle a couple of hundreds of users eaily...

I think it has something to do with the slowdown this Monday. But I might be wrong.

	06-09-2001 20:19									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Markos, are you saying that the server's going to crash if the number of users aren't somehow limited?

or we could have problems like the ones we had on monday....

	06-09-2001 20:29									#10
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I don't think he's kidding this time. that server busy screen is actually supposed to show up every so often. Why can't they fix this problem instead of slowing down the server?

	06-09-2001 20:54									#11
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Its just for you low low lifes, its never too busy for me.

	06-09-2001 21:09									#12
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Is there a way to make submitting a post take preference on the server thing than other clicks? I lost an entire post because the server was busy. I hit back and it had disappeared. Today the post was still there but for some reason the first time what I had typed disappeared.

Any ways, I don't mind all that much. But it would be great if posting had prefrence at least until the post goes through.

	07-09-2001 05:02									#13
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"Dan, you should get on top of things and get those excuses for tech support to fix the servers ASAP."

UR, you have no idea how much work I do on Apolyton and GameStats on top of being a full-time university undergraduate student. I could go on and on and b*tch about all the work I have to do, but I won't. We all have to work to do and I'm not going to stand up and preach about it on a soapbox. Suffice to say that I am doing my job (as Director of Operations of GameStats) to the best of my ability -- I give 110% day in and day out -- and am in as constant communication with GS Tech as possible. I respectfully request that you do not make such statements when you do not know all the details of a particular circumstance.

Instead of just complaining to me like this, you can help the situation yourself by emailing Tony Bolger (Director of Technology) directly at <A HREF=/forums/"mailto:tonyb@worldchat.com">tonyb@worldchat.com</A> and let him know what is going on and how frustrated you are about it. It has been proven time and time again that there is power in numbers.

----------------
Dan; Apolyton CS

P.S. I want to re-emphasize as I have said on previous occasions that I am <I>not</I> the boss of anyone in the technical department at GameStats. This is clearly stated on the "About: Staff" page on GameStats.com

	07-09-2001 06:39									#14
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Should Urban Ranger do the work himself

	07-09-2001 18:37									#15
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

(as per Dan's request I am e-mailing this to tonyb@worldchat.com as well.

I have constant trouble with the forums at www.apolyton.net.

When I load the front page (at apolyton.net) it loads in under 1 second.  I click the forums link and I am still waiting over 3 minutes later.  Most often, if the forums page does not load in under 30 seconds I don't wait around to see if it will.
 
For the past couple of months the forum performance has been slowly degrading.  Now it is to the point where if I expect to be able to use the forum I have to get on before 10 AM PDT.  After that and there is little chance that I will be able to use it.
 
I sure hope that other forums open up by the time Civ 3 comes out becuase unless Apolyton is able to make major (and I mean MAJOR) improvements I won't be using this forum at all for a Civ 3 community site.
 
I hate to see this happen, but I fear that Apolyton is on the way down.  Oh well, it was nice whilie it lasted.


This is the output from tracert to www.apolyton.net.

Tracing route to alpha.gamestats.com [204.138.239.69]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1    17 ms    16 ms    18 ms  adsl-216-103-214-254.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.214.254]
  2    16 ms    17 ms    16 ms  core3-g2-0.snfc21.pbi.net [206.171.134.130]
  3    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  edge2-g2-0.snfc21.pbi.net [209.232.130.76]
  4    18 ms    16 ms    19 ms  edge1-p6-3.snfc21.pbi.net [64.161.124.5]
  5    18 ms    18 ms    20 ms  sl-gw25-stk-8-3.sprintlink.net [160.81.16.21]
  6    21 ms    19 ms    20 ms  sl-bb21-stk-8-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.4.225]
  7    54 ms    52 ms    53 ms  sl-bb20-kc-11-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.205]
  8    54 ms    53 ms    55 ms  sl-bb22-kc-4-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.134]
  9    55 ms    52 ms    53 ms  sl-bb20-kc-6-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.129]
 10    66 ms    65 ms    66 ms  sl-bb23-chi-11-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.202]
 11    64 ms    66 ms    66 ms  sl-gw31-chi-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.10.50]
 12    66 ms    64 ms    66 ms  sl-bce-1-0.sprintlink.net [160.81.92.2]
 13    64 ms    66 ms    66 ms  core2-chicago23-pos11-0.in.bellnexxia.net [206.108.103.126]
 14    78 ms    76 ms    76 ms  core3-toronto12-pos6-3.in.bellnexxia.net [206.108.103.117]
 15    75 ms    76 ms    77 ms  core1-toronto12-pos5-0.in.bellnexxia.net [64.230.242.193]
 16    79 ms    79 ms    78 ms  core2-hamilton14-pos1-0.in.bellnexxia.net [64.230.241.126]
 17    79 ms    81 ms    79 ms  dis4-hamilton14-pos5-0-0.in.bellnexxia.net [64.230.241.106]
 18    83 ms    78 ms    79 ms  204.138.239.66
 19    88 ms   107 ms   104 ms  alpha.gamestats.com [204.138.239.69]
Trace complete.

	07-09-2001 18:42									#16
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john, i see that you continue to use a default style....

	07-09-2001 18:59									#17
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Markos, you should check this out.

There seem to be an error with IE 5.5 cashing all custom avatars, and loading them again every time.

	07-09-2001 20:25									#18
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Default style? What do you mean by default style? Do you suspect that this is somehow killing my forum access?

John-SJ

	07-09-2001 20:28									#19
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quote: Originally posted by John-SJ Default style? What do you mean by default style? Do you suspect that this is somehow killing my forum access?

the style with which you view the forums

in the options page, see the "style set" setting
http://apolyton.net/forums/member.p...ion=editoptions

	07-09-2001 21:14									#20
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Oh, I thought that's what you meant but in the context I wasn't sure.

Yes, I still use the default style, I tried some of the others and decided that having the forum easy to read as well as easy on the eyes is more important to me than an outlandish color scheme. IOW, I am more concerned with utility than bells and whistles.

John-SJ

	08-09-2001 03:25									#21
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quote: Originally posted by John-SJ Oh, I thought that's what you meant but in the context I wasn't sure. Yes, I still use the default style, I tried some of the others and decided that having the forum easy to read as well as easy on the eyes is more important to me than an outlandish color scheme. IOW, I am more concerned with utility than bells and whistles.

eeer the style named "Light" has the exact same colors as the "Default" but loads faster (cause some extra things are missing)

	08-09-2001 04:34									#22
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Hey! Wonders never cease! For the first time in weeks I am able to get into the forums after work in less than a minute! (Sometimes I've waited longer, like 5-10 minutes and still couldn't get in, at that point I consider something badly broken) But in practice, if I have to wait a minute normally I'll just go, it's not worth that much time and frustration.

Mark, I'll check out the light style, but I really don't think that's the real issue. Today when I clicked the forum link it took only a few seconds to load the page, and getting to this forum page also took only a few seconds, like less than 5 in either case. I would say that that is because of a DSL connection on my end and a forum server that is working properly.

On days when it takes a full minute to load a page I still have a DSL connection on my end and I can get good performance on other UBB or similar boards, so it seems to me that the problem is with the Apolyton forum server rather than with my computer, internet connection, ISP, or style that I happen to be using.

Sound reasonable?

John-SJ

	08-09-2001 05:22									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG eeer the style named "Light" has the exact same colors as the "Default" but loads faster (cause some extra things are missing)

Why not make the light style default. If that's what youwant people on?

	08-09-2001 05:29									#24
	Inflate your Upload Space

Because then he not get to see as much grousing from his loyal patrons. He is a glutton for it.

	08-09-2001 13:06									#25
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quote: Originally posted by GP Why not make the light style default. If that's what youwant people on?

actually, i would like all people to be on the "special" styles, default or light i dont care

so you still think i should force all people to one style?

	10-09-2001 05:24									#26
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So am I on default? Is default, default?