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Are you sure they were cavalry?
Herodotus kinda indicates that they were on foot. And most classic accounts of the battle of Thermopylae place the Immortals in the fighting - if Xerxes was sending cavalry up a twisty little road against spearmen no wonder the Spartans held him back for so long. It seems more reasonable to suppose they were on foot.
Where did you read they were strictly cavalry?
Britiannica has a picture which depicts them as foot soldiers ...
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Lisboa, Portugal
Aug 2001
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Even if they used horses, we already have the Rider as a unique unit, and if too many of these were knights, I think it would be uninteresting.
About the Immortal, I'm not that much excited about it (4/2/1), but that's ok, because Persia is not a militaristic civ, so they're not supposed to have a very powerful unique unit.
The Rider (4/4/3), on the other hand, despite the terrible name, is extremely powerful and surprisingly fast, which fits well the Chinese civ which is now Militaristic. From the movie we've all just seen, a modern armor also has a movement factor of 3, so this shows how important that knight can be in its proper period of time.
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jsw363
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I don't think that there are phalanx any more. Now there's a spearman and the Greek UU, the Hoplite.
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tniem
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Hope College
Apr 2000
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I believe that a better place for this argument is in the Civ3-Civilizations section.
In one of the debates in there the point was made that if you took any civs main unit it would probably have something to do with archers. They all used them up even to the English. So Firaxis is forced to pick a more diverse group to add to the feel of the game even if it declines on history.
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Melios
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Originally posted by Wernazuma III
But the persian immortals were a heavy cavalry unit |
Huh?!? Are you sure you're not confusing them with Alexander's "Companion Cavalry?"
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08-09-2001 05:41
But I knew they were not swordsmen and that persians had quite a bit cavalry to say the least. And the sassanid (persians too) elite cataphracts was called immortals, AFAIK. But the original immortals were infantry as it seems, you're right. Interesting side fact: some suggest that Herodot confused Anushiya (=companions) with Anausha (=Immortals). I really had thought before that Alexander's hetairoi were somehow influenced by the immortals. I guess, I've been wrong.
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