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aeturneus is offline aeturneus
Prince
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Apr 2001
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--- Retraction ---

The strange nature of planet Foor Axcis confused us... we thought it was the property of a player in the game. Because of this, the invasion of said planet by Apolyton in a universe where only good players exist could not but provoke the response it did. We retract our declaration of war completely, and wish to return to the long standing position of non-agression towards good corporations that has characterized our behaviour in the past.

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I am a bit confused as to why such a planet was put into the game. Was there money on it, a prize to the first to find and capture it? Was it defended well relative to its value? Will Apolyton take this advantage and use it to dominate the game, possesing a planet perhaps levels beyond our most advanced?

As regards the propriety of our arguments, I won't say much to avoid beating a dead horse. Under the circumstances, we were fully within our right to retract a private treaty publicly, and to accompany it with an honorable, public, declaration of war. The circumstances clearly demanded it, and such forthrightness is what I would expect from any good-aligned corporation that was going to operate an reprecusional action on the scale planned.

I did not say that you attacked LMP first, only that you attacked him when he had absolutely nothing and had no way of avoiding your attack at all.

If we of the Smuggler's Alliance have a fault, it is being too hasty in the vengeance of good. If this is excessive, I apologize... but it is in our nature. You can bet on it

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Umm, I hate to say this, but this is flat-out wrong. Foor Axice (Firaxis) was not owned by any player, nor any corporation. It was a planet put into the game by the creator, the great Dan who is called Maximus in Tradewars; I was simply the first person to claim it.

I think that your rationale here is unusual; you were the first person to fight LordLMP. And you have destroyed a number of players as well.

Misdirection will not work in this case. It is true that I asked the question regarding the lack of evils in this game; it was meant as a challenge to other characters to consider the path to keep the game interest. Note that any agressive tendencies that I had I took out against a non-player owned immovable object, and not a fellow good-aligned corporation.

Apolyton is still interested in keeping this a galaxy not racked by open warfare, and I call out to the more sensible heads within the Universe to speak out against this completely unprovoked agression (and retraction of a standing treaty without first telling any members of the second corporation).

If Aeturneus would be willing to retract the Smuggler's Alliance'd declaration of all-out war, I believe that Apolyton would be willing to accept that, given that, apparently, Aeturneus and friends misunderstood today's actions.

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From the console of the CEO of Smuggler's Alliance, Talon Karrde:
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Uhm...what declaration of war? I don't recall authorizing one.

At any rate, I will make this statement of policy for the record.
Smuggler's Alliance only wishes to trade in peace. The Universe
desires nothing but peace, and we seek to maintain it as this is
in our commercial interest. War is very bad for business. But we
will fight if necessary against those who seek to interfere with
the peaceful business activities of free traders everywhere. We
have the will as well as the means to do this. Evildoers beware.

This transmission ends now....
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[LordLMP]
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Since Dan as Trade War Gold, he is able to place all sort of things like new Races

So why can't Dan place a Evil race to fight against, yet won't be too annoying like the Ferengis ?

Expand the Federation?

etc???

From what i read about Trade War Gold before, that is all possible.... it is possible to create a very interactive universe.

-LMP

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Even though this is a tournament game, with the current state of affairs I would like to see the ferrengi or cylons playing

It would give us a common enemy.

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I also agree; it wouldn't in a position where the first person to go military gets ganged up on by all the remainders.

So, do we have our terms for the next bang starting here?

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I think you are getting ahead of yourself.. next bang? This is a good game! It takes a long time to develop in a game with this few turns... we need to give it a couple of months at least.

Also, Dan could add aliens to this game. Remember how he put the cylons into the last game? I think time is probably the issue though.

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Not talking about banging anytime soon; I just didn't know if they could be added after the fact or not. If they can, I would definitely be up for it!

Who knows...

Dan Magaha FIRAXIS is offline Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
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We can enable aliens if you wish, I disabled them because the general consensus from folks was that they did not want Ferrengi (or other aliens) in the game, since it's technically a tournament game (3 deaths and you're out kind of thing).

And yes, Foor Axice was thrown in there as a "goody hut" if you will, though it was hopefully somewhat of a challenge... I did arm the planet reasonably well (or at least I thought so )

Dan

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I did arm the planet reasonably well (or at least I thought so )
nothing can stop the Apolyton Corporation!!

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Yes Dan, it was reasonably well armed; however, if you see fit to "buff" that planet now to make it stronger, I won't complain!

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Actually, could be an interesting game variant: "find the planetary needle in the galaxian haystack" ... I create an insanely huge game world (10,000 sectors anyone?), hide one planet somewhere in there and arm it to the teeth; whoever captures it first wins...


Dan
a.k.a. Maximus Ire

PS -- working now on compiling the list of folks who get to face their doom today for duping...

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Actually, that sounds like a cool tournament game, but I have another idea -- how about something more like, what was it, Star Control 2? Have a number of rainbow worlds spread out across the galaxy, say 9 or 15 or something, and the winner is he who controls the most by the end of the game. Give them all significant defenses, but make a bit of variance (i.e., not all have 100k fighters and 250 mines).

I saw a rumor somewhere that there were crystalline planets. Is that true? If so, that would be the perfect planet type for a game like this.

However, in order to keep it from being an e-probe game, there would have to be some deployed rogue fighters out in space that could shoot dowqn e-probes.

Sounds interesting to me...

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nothing can stop the Apolyton Corporation!!

Not so fast, MarkG, Smuggler's Alliance is now armed with Imperial Starships. Just got my Fed commission last night.

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