19-09-2001 03:16									#1
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Now that we've had a few COTWs, do we know what order they're coming in? It's obviously chronological, but how is the order determined? So far, we've had:

Babylonians
Chinese
Egyptians
Greeks
Persians
Indians

Can anybody predict the rest?

	19-09-2001 03:21									#2
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Nostramadus predicts the Romans

... or the Russians

	19-09-2001 03:44									#3
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I'm going with Romans, Japanese, Zulus, French(I'm thinking Charlemign is going to be their start point), Russians, Germans, English, Aztecs, Iriquois, Americans

	19-09-2001 03:44									#4
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Romans
Japanese
Germans
Aztecs
French
Russians
English
Americans
Iroqouis
Zulus


That ought to be the right order...

	19-09-2001 04:19									#5
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Romans
Japanese
French
Aztecs
Russians
English
Germans
Zulus
Iroquois
Americans

	19-09-2001 05:21									#6
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Zulu
Romans
Aztecs
Iroquois
Japanese
Russians
French
English
Germans
Americans

	19-09-2001 13:09									#7
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korn, you don't know a great deal about Zulu history, do you?

	19-09-2001 13:22									#8
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What is the point in trying to predict the following civs? Who cares what's the next civ will be? What's the point

	19-09-2001 15:17									#9
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I think it's for "I told you so!" rights...

	19-09-2001 18:54									#10
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Romans
Japanese
French
Aztecs
English
Russians
Germans
Iroquois
Zulus
Americans

	19-09-2001 21:18									#11
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MY UNDOUBTABLY WRONG ORDER OF CIVS 1800+


English (Glory to the British Empire!)
Americans (Glory to the Empire of the United States)
Russians (Glory to the Soviet Union!)
Germans (Glory to the European Union!)
Japanese (Pokemon - the most power Japan has ever yeilded?)
Iroquois (oh, their time will come...)

	19-09-2001 23:28									#12
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Romans
Japanese
Aztecs
English
Russians
Germans
Iroquois
Zulus
Americans
FRENCH, because theyre pink.

	20-09-2001 01:33									#13
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... Pink ninnies

Americans will probably be the last civ of the week

	20-09-2001 03:33									#14
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Its definately the Romans next.

4th week in a row that ive said that, im bound to be right one day...

	20-09-2001 04:26									#15
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Snapcase

if you base it on the rise of the civilization, wouldn't that mean that the zulus would come last?

i have a feeling the civs of the week are based on CSU, and that is why i made my list in the order i did

impi (spearman)
legion (swordman)
Eagle Warrior? (spearman, swordman, or pikeman)
Brave? (spearman, swordman, musketman, conscript)
samurai (knight)
cossak? (dragoon)
musketeer (musketman)
man o' war (frigate)
panzer (early tank)
F-15 (jet fighter)

	20-09-2001 18:02									#16
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quote: have a feeling the civs of the week are based on CSU

I don't think that is correct; the Chinese CSU is a knight, and it came before the persian CSU which was a Swordsman, and the Romans, with a swordsman CSU too, still have to come. That wouldn't make sense.
I think it comes with the rise of a civ, my order:

Romans
Germans
Japanese
Iroquois
French
Russians
English
Aztecs
Americans
Zulus

	21-09-2001 03:07									#17
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i have no idea ...

	21-09-2001 08:04									#18
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I'm just curious as to why everyone keeps putting the Aztecs closer. They didn't even exist until the 1300's or somethin.

	21-09-2001 08:19									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Tarquinius I don't think that is correct; the Chinese CSU is a knight, and it came before the persian CSU which was a Swordsman, and the Romans, with a swordsman CSU too, still have to come. That wouldn't make sense. I think it comes with the rise of a civ, my order: Romans Germans Japanese Iroquois French Russians English Aztecs Americans Zulus

Define Rise of Civ.

The Germans you are talking about? Huns?

They're Slavic, which is inherently Russian. Russians.

I can't recall the Iriquoius being that Ancient though. Is there any record of that?

	21-09-2001 10:03									#20
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Sorry, but anyone who places Russians before French or English (or even Germans) doesn't know a zitch about European history.

	21-09-2001 12:38									#21
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quote: Sorry, but anyone who places Russians before French or English (or even Germans) doesn't know a zitch about European history.

this is not neccesarily true. they might be basing their order on some other info ...

	21-09-2001 14:14									#22
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The Huns slavic????? give me a break!

Huns: Gathering of tribes started their actions in the late 4th-early 5th century AD, became widely known under their leader Attila. Called "Bipedes Besties" (beasts on two legs) by Latin scholars for their ferocity and rugh manners. Currently, anthropologists tend to believe their origin were the steppes in the east of lake Baikal, but more accurate data presents them as an mongol kin group.

Maybe they had something to do with the early "skythes" too - and, to understand what that means, the Byzantines called the Mongolic tribes (Kutrigurs, early Bulgarian, Hazars etc.) also "Skythes".

And to the "Russian before or after Germany and France..." hmm... well, the first mentioning of the "Russ" in the byzantine literature should be around the 7th century AD. That should put them past the germanic tribes (Alemans, Saxons, Franks) so it should be more accurate to say that Germany and France (they and also part of the English derive from the abovementioned three tribes - Alemans=Germans, Saxons=English, Franks=France - yes, yes, it is much more complicated but it should give you an idea) should be prior to Russia. At least the Franks (legitimate kingdom since the 4th century AD) if not the Germans too.

	21-09-2001 14:29									#23
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quote: Define Rise of Civ.

I mean the first sign of a civ with that, for example, that would mean the Roman civ started around 750 b.c.

quote: The Germans you are talking about? Huns?

No, Huns and Germans are not the same, I mean the old German tribes that fought against the Romans.

quote: Sorry, but anyone who places Russians before French or English (or even Germans) doesn't know a zitch about European history.

That is just how you define the civs. I placed the Russians before the English because when I say 'Russians' I mean the people that inhabited Russia after the Vikings. ( from 900 AD - now) When I say 'English', I mean the people that inhabited England after the Normandian conquerers were driven out. (from 1250 AD - now)

Conclusion: I might know a bit more than 'a zitch' about European history

	21-09-2001 14:39									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Tarquinius That is just how you define the civs. I placed the Russians before the English because when I say 'Russians' I mean the people that inhabited Russia after the Vikings. ( from 900 AD - now) When I say 'English', I mean the people that inhabited England after the Normandian conquerers were driven out. (from 1250 AD - now) Conclusion: I might know a bit more than 'a zitch' about European history

If you (for some reason) choose to place English civ after the Norman conquerors were driven out, by the same token you could put the Russian civ after the Mongol conquerors were driven out (i.e. around 14th century).

	21-09-2001 17:38									#25
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quote: If you (for some reason) choose to place English civ after the Norman conquerors were driven out, by the same token you could put the Russian civ after the Mongol conquerors were driven out (i.e. around 14th century).

You have a good point there, maybe i should switch the English and the Russians.

We shall see how Firaxis thinks about this

	21-09-2001 21:11									#26
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Well, it wasn't the Romans.

Maybe next week.

	21-09-2001 21:25									#27
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So how does the Aztecs fit into this sequence. Sounds like a random event to me.

	21-09-2001 22:11									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Steve Clark So how does the Aztecs fit into this sequence. Sounds like a random event to me.

Sometimes it's just fun to do whatever people are NOT expecting.




Dan

	21-09-2001 22:16									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Steve Clark So how does the Aztecs fit into this sequence. Sounds like a random event to me.

Aren't the Aztec quite undated? We don't know when they appear.

	21-09-2001 22:29									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Aren't the Aztec quite undated? We don't know when they appear.

The Aztecs will appear on the map in about 4000 BC if you chose them as a playable civ. And if you chose them as your Civ, you get to define them as you wish. As far as the Civ of the Week, it's just for entertainment purposes only.