24-09-2001 00:25									#1
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Well my answer is 1. See the genocide thread for more details on its implementation.

	24-09-2001 00:30									#2
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How about a "No, and I CAN justify my answer"?

	24-09-2001 00:32									#3
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Of course, I forgot to mention that all comments are welcome.

	24-09-2001 00:34									#4
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Gee Pembleton, a thread to try and prove me wrong. How mature of you

MarkG, since there is a thread on this, shouldn't this one be closed?

	24-09-2001 00:37									#5
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Actually, my faith in the moral fiber of the forumers in this group is shaken, and I am really curious to see how the poll will turn out since you did get a lot more people to support your idea of genocide in your thread than I thought you would. I'm worried that more people will support it, and not confident at all that more people will agree with me.

	24-09-2001 00:40									#6
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Most civ players have (at one time or another) starved a city in an attempt to get rid of it. How is this worse? Are you forgetting that IT ISN'T REAL?

	24-09-2001 00:43									#7
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Oh, you're right, I didn't realize that it was only a game and that it wasn't real. How silly of me.

	24-09-2001 00:44									#8
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I think it just adds one more detail that would lengthen the development time and possibly disrupt the game.

Of course, if they made it easier to starve people out of their cities, that would add a whole new facet to the strategic framework.

	24-09-2001 00:45									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Pembleton Oh, you're right, I didn't realize that it was only a game and that it wasn't real. How silly of me.

Why are you making such a big deal over it? Have you ever starved a city to get rid of it (by shrinking it down to size 1 then building a settler)?

It's like not implementing Fascsim in the game - yes it sucked and we hate it, but it still existed.

	24-09-2001 00:48									#10
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Actually I like the idea of a concentration camp/Gulags. It should be a city improvement...


It would have an effect like this, -20% dissent/discontent (Rounding up political prisoners so they dont cause trouble..only availble under Communist Regime)

Sounds like a pretty damn good idea

	24-09-2001 00:53									#11
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Wow! Saddam and I actually agree over sometihng!

*faints*

	24-09-2001 01:26									#12
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Uh oh, better not tell him about nerve-stapling in SMAC...

	24-09-2001 01:31									#13
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genocide is a big part of history and shuld be included.

but concentration camps?

Rome: Building Concentration Camp. 5 Turns till completion.

	24-09-2001 01:53									#14
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How about this:

When you capture a city you have the option of turning some, or all, of the city's population points into slave labour units (same as workers, except they cost nothing).

	24-09-2001 23:35									#15
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I dont think the idea of Slaves is a good one

Activision got tons of flak for the Slaver unit


But the Gulag is a good idea

	24-09-2001 23:50									#16
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Just because something is a realistic part of history doesn't mean it should be included. There are boundaries of good taste.

You can all pretend to your hearts content that when you demolish a city that you ship of the inhabitants to death camps. I'd just as well not see it in the game, the same way I don't want to see a realistic game where someone goes around raping women.

	25-09-2001 00:10									#17
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[/QUOTE]Just because something is a realistic part of history doesn't mean it should be included. There are boundaries of good taste. You can all pretend to your hearts content that when you demolish a city that you ship of the inhabitants to death camps. I'd just as well not see it in the game, the same way I don't want to see a realistic game where someone goes around raping women.[/QUOTE]

agreed

i dont like the idea morally (l lost many relatives in holocaust)
i dont like the idea in gameplay-there is the option to demolish city already...

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	25-09-2001 00:12									#18
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Edit: I shouldn't have made this post. I no longer wish to comment on this topic.

Last edited by Pembleton on 25-09-2001 at 00:22

	25-09-2001 00:24									#19
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face it guys... there gonna be no concentration camps in civ3 or any civ game. nobody would want to see such a sick thing in a game like civ. The firaxians do not want to implement such a horrible thing into civ3 because people would not want to play with concentration camps in the game. Sometimes even the smallest reminder, or something that makes light of it, can be devastating