27-09-2001 21:26									#1
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If one of the options to win in Civ 3 is to be the first to launch a spaceship to the moon, then the game stops? Or do you have a chance to perhaps see you landing on the moon etc.?


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	28-09-2001 00:04									#2
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from what I understood, it is about landing on Alpha Centauri, the nearest star system (?). moon is just too easy

	28-09-2001 01:47									#3
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My understanding is that the game does not end until the ship reaches Alpha Centauri. It's just that all the ships are of equal speed and configuration, so if someone launches it first, you have only so much time to stop it (by taking their capital, if Civ3 uses the same system as in Civ2).

When I play Civ2 without bloodlust on, other civs would steal all the ship-building tech from me, share all their info and QUICKLY launch a ship. But mine would always be much faster, so I could launch later and still win, perhaps with just fewer people on board than I had hoped.

It seems that this option won't be available to me with Civ3 -- gad, another challenge!

	28-09-2001 05:30									#4
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I thought civfanatics said that victory is awarded upon launch.

	28-09-2001 10:14									#5
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I'm not sure that launching a spaceship should even be a means to victory. I mean, say you're building your ship but are being systematically gobbled up on the battlefield. Just before your last city bites the dust, you launch or the ship arrives at AC, whatever the victory condition is. You lose on earth, but win in space. Why does that give you a total game victory? I think launching the starship should just be a major bonus to your civ score.

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	28-09-2001 10:19									#6
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Probably too late to get them to change it though - it's a Civ tradition.

	28-09-2001 14:26									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Madine I thought civfanatics said that victory is awarded upon launch.

Victory on launch is silly. What event is remembered more, the first landing on the moon or the launching of that mission?

It also doesn't allow for the mission being aborted due to "technical difficulties" or "calamities". Apollo 13 being an example.

	28-09-2001 16:33									#8
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Landing on the moon was in the other games... APOLLO PROGRAM!!!!