30-09-2001 04:10									#1
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Alreadythen folks, my Zulus scenario is so fricken close to being done, so I've began my next project. Take a wild stab at what it could possible be about...

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	30-09-2001 04:54									#2
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That's a picture of a German invasion of Belgium, so I'd say it covers a world war. Given the lack of tanks and aircraft and the uniforms the units are wearing, I'd say World War One

	30-09-2001 05:19									#3
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Is this gonna cover the whole war? IIRC someone's already making a Guns of August scenario...

	30-09-2001 05:51									#4
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no problem with a bit of competition

	30-09-2001 07:44									#5
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My scenario is about the Western Front, and it's on a grand scale.
here is a smaller version of the titlepage:

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	30-09-2001 08:03									#6
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whats Gun of August abooot? More the merrier!

	30-09-2001 08:09									#7
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Those are such good graphics.

Post a map.

	30-09-2001 08:21									#8
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the map: (oh, and the big dark strip going down the center are trenches and no man's land.)

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	30-09-2001 09:48									#9
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the only problem with guns of august was that kull ran into some desing problems and was deciding how to redesing the whole thing. since his poll, we've heard nothing. it might die in the cradle if it isn't released before civ3 comes out

	30-09-2001 10:34									#10
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I say bring it on.

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Hobbes, how much more work do you have to do on the scenario?

	30-09-2001 21:03									#12
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Case, I have completed most of the graphics (still need to do the icons), and most of the cities are placed (still need to do the French). No events yet, and I may want to make a few more interesting units.

The Civs:
Germany- tannish/grey
Belgium- yellow
France- blue
Holland- orange
Britain- pink

The British aren't playable (neither is the lowcountries, but I might make Belgium playable), however you can buy British tanks and planes, just like in that Israel scenario. Also, the French will control three British port cities, that build only British infantry, to be shipped to France.

I've got a few spots for units left, and I need suggestions on interesting units!

	30-09-2001 21:30									#13
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The idea of buying british units sounds interesting!

If possible, post some more screenshots, because the artwork in the first one is really looking cool

Btw: If you need playtesters, I'm there!

	01-10-2001 01:45									#14
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The German pushing deeper into Belgium, only to be met by the British Expeditionary Force...

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Thanks Pol Pot!
Here is some trench warfare between the Germans and the French...

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	01-10-2001 02:23									#16
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Excellent gfx. I love the Renault (?) tank.

But how do you handle the frontline? Is it static all the time? but changing it would require lots of events, or do you ahve another idea? Or do you use it as a basic frontline for the whole war, and the player should "break through" to win?

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quote: Originally posted by Hobbes I've got a few spots for units left, and I need suggestions on interesting units!

Oh, and for suggestions we need to know what units are already in...

Do you have a Fokker Triplane, Sopwith Camel, SE5? Zeppelin? British Mark I - V tanks of course, perhaps some German A7 at the end? Some nice armoured cars (once I saw a pic of an armoured Rolls Royce Silver Ghost )...

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quote: Oh, and for suggestions we need to know what units are already in...

Ahh, yes of course!

the basic units:
German: -ground
Infantry & Calvary
Maxim Machinegunner
77mm field artillery
"Big Bertha" siege artillery
Flamethrower
Stormtroops
A7V tank
-air
Fokker Eindecker
Albatros D.II
Fokker Dreidecker
Gotha Heavy Bomber
Zeppelin

French: -ground
Infantry & Calvary
Vickers Machinegunner
75mm field artillery
270mm Mortar
Reault Tank (sidenote: my family use to own a Reault car)
-air
Nieuport 11
SPAD

British: -ground
Infantry
B.E.F.
C.E.F (Canadian Expeditionary Force)
Australians
A.E.F. (American Expeditionary Force)
Mark I & Mark V tanks

-air
Bristol Scout
Sopwith Camel
Handly Page Heavy Bomber

Other units:
Belgian and Dutch infantry
Suburbs of London and Paris (to be bombed by Zeppelins, etc)
Poison Gas

the tanks:

	01-10-2001 04:13									#19
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Wow! That looks supurb!

How about some naval units? I don't think that Battleships operated in the area your map covers, but there were numerous clashes between German and Allied destroyers and submarines.

	01-10-2001 05:18									#20
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yeah put the subs and destroyers in i assume you have some kind of transport ship? Then if your the german player you could try to stop the british troops getting to france. and by the way the Royal navy should have so many more ships than the germans

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Case, do you have any nice boats I could use? I'm not that great with boats

	01-10-2001 07:02									#22
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I have a few WWI ships and ground units that I did for the Turtledove scenario and for two other WWI scenarios that I gave up on (Verdun and the Guns of August).

	01-10-2001 08:18									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Hobbes Case, do you have any nice boats I could use? I'm not that great with boats

Here's everything I've got. Please note that most of them weren't drawn by me.
I'll support Scott's self promotion - his WW1 ships are very nice.

To fill up some empty sapce I added an armoured car as well. I don't know who made it

	01-10-2001 08:22									#24
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oops - I forgot to atach the picture

Here you go:

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	01-10-2001 14:50									#25
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Here we go...

Most of these I drew "for the hell of it", so I won't be offended if some of them appear in a scenario by someone else before I use them.

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	01-10-2001 16:23									#26
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Hobbes, since the Germans had only a few own tanks, they often used captured Mark tanks, perhaps they could have some via events? Or they could have armoured cars instead...

	01-10-2001 17:01									#27
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Scot, you just solved my problem of being short of units for 'The Cruel Sea 2.0'
I think I'll add the Cario Duilio class

	01-10-2001 20:04									#28
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when are you going to release the zulu´s scenario???

I´ve been waiting for a few months

this scn looks great, I don´t think that there is any good one scn about wwi,

	02-10-2001 06:59									#29
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Wowee! Great Ships Guys!
BeBro, sounds like a good idea with the captured tanks and armoured cars.

Shaka, I need to do the two last events parts (their's four all together) from my Zulu scenario, and some tweaking, then I'm done. School is cuttin' out my scenario building hours!!

	02-10-2001 07:25									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Hobbes School is cuttin' out my scenario building hours!!

I can relate to that. I think that I'll have to quit university if I'm to finish 'The Cruel Sea 2.0' before Civ 3 comes out