02-10-2001 01:15									#1
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Hi! This is probably a stupid question, but one of my favorite things about civII, is that it runs in a window, so i can play it while multitasking other things, like chat, email, browsing, and work I was wondering if civIII is supposed to work the same way, or if it's going to take over the whole screen. i'm sure that alt+tab probably wouldn't be too detrimental, but it's so great to have it running in a window.
thanks!

	02-10-2001 01:45									#2
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quote: Originally posted by dirt Hi! This is probably a stupid question, but one of my favorite things about civII, is that it runs in a window, so i can play it while multitasking other things, like chat, email, browsing, and work I was wondering if civIII is supposed to work the same way, or if it's going to take over the whole screen. i'm sure that alt+tab probably wouldn't be too detrimental, but it's so great to have it running in a window. thanks!

I'm happy to say, it looks like it uses fullscreen...the window mode was the worst part of Civ2

	02-10-2001 02:05									#3
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I believe I have read somewhere that Civ3 will not run in a window. However, it will be possible to run other things in the background when playing.

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	02-10-2001 02:16									#4
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civ3 by default is run full screen, but Dan Magaha says it's ALT+TAB and ALT+ENTER friendly

	02-10-2001 04:01									#5
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before people ask, the reason it has to be full screen is that then it can take advantage of exclusive mode on the graphics card, thereby rendering a lot faster. I know it's just 2D, but every bit helps...

	02-10-2001 06:06									#6
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I guess it makes sense. Windowed mode is best for MP TBS games. Without MP, no reason to keep windowed mode.

	02-10-2001 06:17									#7
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Why is windowed bad adg?

	02-10-2001 06:57									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py Why is windowed bad adg?

I think ADG just has something against windowed mode.

	02-10-2001 07:12									#9
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aaaah windows

never thought this would come out my mouth

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	02-10-2001 18:10									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py Why is windowed bad adg?

Why it is bad is because in my opinion windowed games looks pretty cheap and I don't like when games (or anything) looks cheap. That is why I also use the skin mode in WinXP and ICQ, old windows and icq defently looks cheap...That is why

	02-10-2001 19:42									#11
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Unfortunately it will be full-screen.

	02-10-2001 19:56									#12
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Why it is bad is because in my opinion windowed games looks pretty cheap and I don't like when games (or anything) looks cheap. That is why I also use the skin mode in WinXP and ICQ, old windows and icq defently looks cheap...That is why

It is harder to handle windows then to handle fullscreen apps, as fullscreen always is the same size. That would make fullscreen cheaper.

	02-10-2001 20:01									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos It is harder to handle windows then to handle fullscreen apps, as fullscreen always is the same size. That would make fullscreen cheaper.

Maybe it is cheaper to have full screen, but what I was saying is that fullscreen doesn't look cheaper than windowed mode

	02-10-2001 20:04									#14
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Maybe it is cheaper to have full screen, but what I was saying is that fullscreen doesn't look cheaper than windowed mode

I don't think either looks cheap. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. In this case, full screen just happens to be better.

	02-10-2001 20:23									#15
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Since I don't care much about graphics, I would far prefer windowed civ 3.

	02-10-2001 20:24									#16
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Sorry to hear that Roman. Go play civ2.

	02-10-2001 20:41									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Sabre2th Sorry to hear that Roman. Go play civ2.

Unfortunately there are many features other than graphics that I do like in Civ 3, so I will be stuck with full-screen mode.

	02-10-2001 20:44									#18
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If it helps, civ3 is supposed to be VERY alt-tab friendly, so you can still have winamp/email/whatever open at the same time.

	02-10-2001 20:47									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Sabre2th If it helps, civ3 is supposed to be VERY alt-tab friendly, so you can still have winamp/email/whatever open at the same time.

The feature I'll miss most is the ability to move around the interface windows as I like them, and not as they are placed from the beginning.

	02-10-2001 20:57									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Sabre2th If it helps, civ3 is supposed to be VERY alt-tab friendly, so you can still have winamp/email/whatever open at the same time.

That does indeed help, though, windowed would still be preferable.

	02-10-2001 21:48									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Roman That does indeed help, though, windowed would still be preferable.

Why? If you can Alt+Tab out and multitask anyway, what's the difference?

	02-10-2001 21:51									#22
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Need windowed mode to switch between work, game, and browser.

quote: If it helps, civ3 is supposed to be VERY alt-tab friendly, so you can still have winamp/email/whatever open at the same time.

The ninth wonder of the world! An alt-tab friendly program!

	02-10-2001 21:57									#23
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yay! you guys replied! but, the difference is, say, you're chatting and the little thing flashes on the taskbar, and you know someone is talking to you, and other stuff like that. it's also easier to look like you're doing something else. i suppose in reality it doesn't make any difference, but it seems like it does...
i think that the awful truth is that CivIII is not going to be civII. i never played the original civilization, so i haven't had this happen before! civ II is my very favorite game... and maybe i will have a new favorite game, and maybe i wont. (i know that most of you are probably better than i am, but i'm super excited because i finally beat civII on emperor!)
party on

	02-10-2001 22:12									#24
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I like full-screen.
Seeing the taskbar and whatnot kinda takes me out of my Civ utopia.

	02-10-2001 22:18									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Mister Pleasant The ninth wonder of the world! An alt-tab friendly program!

What's so funny about that? I've never had trouble with alt-tab.

	02-10-2001 22:25									#26
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i prefer windowed mode as its easier to multitask while playing MP

	02-10-2001 22:30									#27
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My god, does the whining never stop?

Let's not discuss important thing such as gameplay or game balance, but complain about whether you can play the game in a window or not.

	02-10-2001 22:31									#28
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quote: Originally posted by HalfLotus I like full-screen. Seeing the taskbar and whatnot kinda takes me out of my Civ utopia.

Exactly...games is another world...a world that can't be described with windows

	02-10-2001 22:46									#29
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One of the great things about playing a turn-based windowed game is the ability to alternate doing work (or schoolwork, for those still in school) with taking a few turns. Y'know, play a few turns, write a page, repeat.

However, if the game is as Alt-tab friendly as is claimed, this won't be a big deal. Hopefully the game really is stable enough to constantly Alt-tab (if necessary).

	02-10-2001 23:13									#30
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I don't know how CtP2 compares to civ3 in terms of alt-tabiness, but it never so much as blinked back when I used to play it *shudder*