03-10-2001 22:12									#1
	Civ3 fansite kit Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Now up at the civ3.com website - a kit to help you make "the ultimate civ3 fansite." Includes images of wonders, leaders, sound fx! I'm going to check it out.

	03-10-2001 22:19									#2
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Holy speed, ixnay! I was about to post the news here when I saw your post... Maybe next time...

	03-10-2001 22:36									#3
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Here's a list of images that are included:

Units:

AEGIS Cruiser
F15
Jaguar Warrior*
Bowman*
Rider*
Destroyer
War Chariot*
Hoplite*
War Elephant*
Knight
Marine
Mechanized Infantry
Nuclear Submarine
Immortal*
Legion
Settler
Stealth Bomber
Warrior
Swordsman

* indicates there are also animated images

Wonders:

Colossus
Hanging Gardens
Lighthouse
Sistine Chapel
Pyramid
UN

	03-10-2001 22:39									#4
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Whoah! There are sounds, too:

Barbarian Raid
City Aerial View
Civ3 Megamix mp3
Goody Hut
Knight Death & Victory
Select Text
We Love The King

Plus all of the ad banners that I have seen pop up on other sites, images of the cultural, foreign, military, and science advisors, logos for civ3, firaxis, & infogrames, box shots, and team photos.

Last edited by ixnay on 03-10-2001 at 22:47

	03-10-2001 22:42									#5
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I seem to have a big speed-problem with civ3.com only 11% done

	03-10-2001 22:53									#6
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Argh. If the game is indeed due on the 31st, it will be a long 4 weeks.

	03-10-2001 23:45									#7
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The units look fantastic especially the Aegis Cruiser. Now if only the game would have MP or a decent AI...

	04-10-2001 00:24									#8
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In case you don't have a program that can view those .tga unit graphics, I found this shareware viewer to be pretty good:

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/...00-5786527.html

	04-10-2001 01:12									#9
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Cool, I will have a look at these, see what graphics I can see I like these juicy little tidbits!

	04-10-2001 01:24									#10
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lol @ harrisons penguins.

fansite kit is cool. im too lazy to make a site (i havent finished my own) so i'll just superimposte things here and there.

NEW AVATAR

	04-10-2001 01:40									#11
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Cool! Just whets the appetite, ya know...

Luv the Civ3 Megamix, BTW

	04-10-2001 02:31									#12
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cool! I can certainly use these!

	04-10-2001 02:51									#13
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Nice knowing they actually care about the fans

	04-10-2001 04:00									#14
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That medieval science advisor is scary!

	04-10-2001 06:15									#15
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Yikes! I do NOT like the looks of that AEGIS Cruiser. Looks more like a patrol boat to me (an oversize WW2 PT boat). The Destroyer image looked closer to an AEGIS! Look at those windows on the bridge of the 'AEGIS' -- way too large!

I'm telling you, Firaxis, someone got a wrong label on that 'boat'! Please get your art department back in gear (or higher gear) to get the correct images for that puppy!

I had seen that on the Civfanatics site long ago, and had assumed that THEY were the ones that had messed up. Someone please get ahold of some decent US Navy literature, or Janes!!

BTW, the Civ3 Megamix soundtrack is AWESOME! I am just sorry that it ends abruptly.

BEGIN EDIT:
Eureka! For how an Aegis Cruiser really looks like, I found this at militaryinfo.com

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	04-10-2001 06:23									#16
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I've taken the sky out of the tower of bable and fixed up the lighting a bit (looks better in my opinion)

If you want it, let me know, its in psd or jpg if u want, also I can edit more if anyone wants anything done

	04-10-2001 06:31									#17
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Yay! Im getting the Kit at the terrific speed of 558 bytes per second! By this time next year, it will be finished, and i too can look at all these wonderour things. Dont you just 56k modems??

	04-10-2001 06:35									#18
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It took me about 6 minutes to download on cable. Usually, I get transfer rates around 200kb/s+, but the civ3 server was going at about 20kb/s for me.

	04-10-2001 06:43									#19
	Re: AEGIS, Shmaegis Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by Jaybe Yikes! I do NOT like the looks of that AEGIS Cruiser. Looks more like a patrol boat to me (an oversize WW2 PT boat).

Here's how they really look:

	04-10-2001 07:10									#20
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Smart a$$ cable owners
Im up to 695 bytes/second, and 45% complete.
Jaybe, could you post the Civ 3 picture of the AEGIS Crusier so we could compare them? Something to tide me over until the Kit is downloaded (so you have about a day ) please

	04-10-2001 07:12									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe Here's how they really look:

Agreed, but I wouldn't worry too much, it's not the actual unit icon, probably just the build icon like in SMAC or on an RTS toolbar. They got the AEGIS styling right in Civ2, I don't think they'd take a step backwards in Civ3. They even upgraded the ironclad to be more like the Monitor.

	04-10-2001 07:31									#22
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lol, sorry to say this serapis, but those pics are THE actualy gameplay units, also, try to remember why they are not so detailed: the units are going to be resized down to a point where you can get only so many objects out of a few pixels.

Also remember that these images are at least 3 times the size of the size they will be in the game. And remember that we are looking at the ship from a different angle, we won't be looking at this ship from this angle in the game.

Attachment: aegis-cruiser.gif
This has been downloaded 361 time(s).

	04-10-2001 07:34									#23
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acutal size aegis

Attachment: aegis.gif
This has been downloaded 361 time(s).

	04-10-2001 08:06									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py lol, sorry to say this serapis, but those pics are THE actualy gameplay units, also, try to remember why they are not so detailed: the units are going to be resized down to a point where you can get only so many objects out of a few pixels.

I don't think so, the game is on an isometric map. When would you be able to look at the Aegis from below its waterline? That's not the in-game unit. You can't see the stern, only the bow, yet every screenshot that includes ships shows the entire profile from bow to stern. It's an icon, not the unit.

	04-10-2001 08:17									#25
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Just downloaded the thing! Took me 6 tries and the one that did download took an hour and ten minutes!

Serapis: I think the graphics team took the image in the 3D editor, zoomed in on it and got it from a different angle. It takes about 3 clicks to do that in a standard editor.

EDIT: Did anybody else notice the Babylonian archer animations are screwed up or is it just my computer?

	04-10-2001 08:53									#26
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serap:

you did not notice I said this did you? =o)

"And remember that we are looking at the ship from a different angle, we won't be looking at this ship from this angle in the game."


I did not know elvis could be respelt has lives, oh and I couldn't give two rats arses if he was alive or dead - offtopic

	04-10-2001 08:55									#27
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Oh another thing, serap, I should explain myself

and I think you know this, but..

all the units are done in a 3d program, they will do all their editing and drawing at a large scale, then when they're happy with it, they will shrink it down and export it as a animated file.

So what you are seeing here with these images, is just a different angle view from within the 3d program. but they are the actual unit too =o)

	04-10-2001 08:59									#28
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"Mommy, can I have an AEGIS cruiser for Christmas?"

"Not this year dear, Daddy lost some money in the stockmarket. You'll have to settle for a PT boat."

lol I kill me!

	04-10-2001 10:23									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Sn00py acutal size aegis

Thank you SnOOpy, for posting the 'patrol boat' pic for Shanky. I had gotten back to a Civ2 game.
I DO hope they change it before they go Gold, because I would hate to have to use that boat.

Or maybe I'll just have such an exciting time figuring out how to get that far into the game that they update the game before I need it!

	04-10-2001 12:24									#30
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut Just downloaded the thing! Took me 6 tries and the one that did download took an hour and ten minutes!

Thank God download last only 5 minutes and 20" on a broad band (fiber optic) I have at work.

Some nice image (marine, Mech infantry) I never saw before.

About the Aegis Cruiser debate, I agree that the 3D modeling of complex units as the Aegis make more difficult to see fine details (a flat image can be detailed a bit more), and given the scale any detail can make the difference.