04-10-2001 20:51									#1
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Go see the archer at http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filter...4261-87,00.html and you may remark the way that the string is in the hand. I made a little of arching (is it a word in english? I mean using a bow). I normally took the string between my index and thumb.

Am I wrong in any way? Was this way of using a bow with fingers really was used anciently? I know I wouldn't like to use MY bow that way... ouch when arrow goes. My fingers would be read or even bloody after a while I think.

	04-10-2001 21:01									#2
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Have you nothing better to do than to 'nit-pick' about something so inconsequential?

	04-10-2001 21:16									#3
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I think you're right Trifna, my uncle uses his bow the same way as you. hmmm...

	04-10-2001 21:17									#4
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Actually this is such great importance that it will imbalance the game if they don't fix it. It may even dump you out to the desktop.

	04-10-2001 21:32									#5
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	04-10-2001 21:50									#6
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Maybe this is why the Babylonians aren't around anymore...

they just didn't know how to hold the bow

Good eye, but it's really of little importance, eh?

	04-10-2001 22:10									#7
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The graphic is correct, at least according to the ways that archery is done these days. I took archery in college (30 years ago), and you hold the arrow between the 1st and 2nd fingers. Between the 1st & 2nd knuckles, not by the finger tips. It allows for much more control and better aim, and your fingers DO get used to it.

	04-10-2001 22:17									#8
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I agree with Jaybe, as I also have done some archery.

....if we are going to be really anal about this ... the blue dye the archer is dressed would have been very rare and only used by royalty, if it could have been produce without modern techniques anyway...bla bla mumble mumble zzzz zzzz

	04-10-2001 22:36									#9
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I don't claim to have done too much in the way of archery, but that's the way I was taught.

	04-10-2001 22:42									#10
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It wasn't supposed to unbalance anything. Only that I am perfectionist. Perfectionist means "aiming perfection". I knew what I changed to the game, but it doesn't mean that because it does very little it should stay same if it's not exact (if it is changeable without too much problems).

	05-10-2001 00:24									#11
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I was also taught to do it between the first and second fingers, too. Now that I think about it though, I don't think anybody in that class DIDN'T slice his/her finger in the process. Next time, I guess I'll try it Triff's way.

	05-10-2001 00:42									#12
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You know what...

I think that the game needs to be released now, so all of us won't be wasting time on irrelevant stuff like this - just playing it instead

	05-10-2001 04:00									#13
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well if he can nitpick about archery I'd like to nitpick the Roman legionary's attack move...

The Roman gladius was introduced from Spain and it is primarily a stabbing weapon. When you are in close formation like the Romans are famous for, if you swing your arm like that you

1)probably smack your buddy next door in the head

and

2) open yourself up - and introduce a gap in the shield wall.

If you stab however you keep the gap between the shields to a minimum and use the minimum amount of energy for the maximum amount of pointiness..


I assume Firaxis made it a swingining attack because it looks cool but it should be a stab :P

	05-10-2001 04:15									#14
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The holding of the string is more-or-less correct (I'd go for index and middle tips, myself), however, more or less nothing else is. Check the other hand - the arrow passes through it. Can you say friction burn? Ouch, that would hurt. Particularly as the flights pass. You rest the arrow, if on you hand at all, then on the top of the thumb. Usually, you'd rest it on that nice little ledge the bow's got. And secondly, check the flights. One points up, one points down, and one points... towards the bow. What happens as it passes the wood bit at the front? Yep - the flight comes off, and the arrow is useless. The third flight ALWAYS goes away from the bow, or it just doesn't work.

But hey, it's not gonna stop me buying the game.