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Lars-E is offline Lars-E
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Nov 2000
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Sid Meier's Civilization II : Advanced Strategies (Secrets of the Games Series.)

Anyone have this book?

Rasbelin is offline Rasbelin

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And could someone give us comments on that book?
Is worth to buy it?

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I looked at amazon for it.
This is what I found:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...7203268-1600556

Smash is offline Smash
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hahaha..why would anyone buy that when they can pick thru the Great Library or archives?

I doubt very much you will find anything in that, that you can't find here.

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I doubt very much you will find anything in that, that you can't find here.

That strategy book is just an another way to plunder
Civ II players. And have you ever seen any good strategy
books? I doubt that.

Lars-E is offline Lars-E
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I don't care Smash. I've read thru the Great Library and some civ2-threads. I want that book anyways. So....if anyone has it....please post.

If you made a book out of the GL and the archives Smash....

Rasbelin, "Sid Meier's Civilization II The Official Strategy Guide" is a good book.

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Rasbelin, "Sid Meier's Civilization II The Official Strategy Guide" is a good book.

If I need a Civ II book, I use the manual (186 pages).

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I bought the Advanced Guide (125 pages, ISBN 0-7615-0917-8) and the Prima Civ II Official Strategy Guide (370 pages, ISBN 0-7615-0106-1) back in 1996. At the time, I just wasn't getting what I needed to play the game well from the manual.
The better question to ask is: has a worthy game manual ever been produced?

Nevertheless, I found the larger Official Strategy Guide to be much more complete and helpful. It's well organized and covers much more detail than the Advanced Strategy Guide which was written to help play at Emperor/Deity level. The Advanced Guide definitely contains factual errors as well.

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If you made a book out of the GL and the archives




A couple years ago it would have made a fortune..now I'm not so sure.

Messer Niccolò is offline Messer Niccolò
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If I need a Civ II book, I use the manual (186 pages).



you'll get everything you should need on forums, if don't know, just ask!
No need for books!!!

Marquis de Sodaq is offline Marquis de Sodaq
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If I need a Civ II book, I use the manual (186 pages).

With all we've discovered that the manual has wrong, it's a questionable source!

Lars-E is offline Lars-E
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No need for books?? What I "need" is a systematic presentation of civ2-strategy.

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The better question to ask is: has a worthy game manual ever been produced?

Yes - Sid Meier's Gettysburg!

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No need for books?? What I "need" is a systematic presentation of civ2-strategy.

Ask here at Ape. No need for books. So what do you
want to know?

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Don't know.

I just got the book!

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I recall leafing through that book a few years ago (my brother had it.) It is rather well done, having some nice charts & was better than the "actual" civ II manual.

However, it's strategy level tops out at about Prince/King level. More advanced information such as use of a SSC or the tremendous advantages of trade are captured here & at CFC. So both the time & $$ is better spent here.

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That was a phenomenal bump!

To be honest, I doubt that an official guide would recommend either an SSC or ICS, because they might feel that these strategies made the game too easy and that some players may become bored of it quicker than if they had worked out the strategies themselves.

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I doubt that an official guide would recommend SCC or ICS because the books were written prior to players completely disecting the game. I read parts of it a long time ago, and it had some good stuff but it would be well outdated and probably kind of funny today.

The man hours put into discovering every little thing about Civ since that book was written would probably be unbelievable.

RAH
Yes quite a bump.

Bloody Monk is offline Bloody Monk

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Originally posted by Lars-E
Don't know.

I just got the book!


It could be quite entertaining for all of us if you post some of the "ideas and tips" from the guide. This could be screamingly funny. Ideas like, "The game will become hopeless if you let the AI build the Great Library!!", are what I have in mind.

So, your mission, if you choose to accept it....

Monk

Lars-E is offline Lars-E
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Ok, I was a bit hesitant because I don't want to make fun of the author, but heck we've all believed in stuff like you quoted.

After we found Apolyton none of us ever searched other places again.

I suggest you quote any source you want with "interesting" ideas.

Here's my quote:

"The Great Library....absolutely essential if you want to go after Leonardo's Workshop.", Rymaszewski (1996).

That's "the funniest" I could find just browsing quickly.

Anyways I find the tips in "How to win" section in the chapter about CiC-scenarios very lacking.

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