06-10-2001 22:36									#1
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[Edit] Thanks to Dan Q, and Tony at Gamestats, we finally have access to the Apolyton Clash site again. I don't know about Dom's schedule, but the one at clash.apolyton.net should be updated sometime in the not-too-distant future. We will leave the mirror site up (url below) in case the main one goes down or has other difficulties in the future. So keep it bookmarked!

We are moving the Clash web site to a new location because we can no longer get access to our files for updating. This problem has persisted for more than a month...

Here is the location for the updated Clash Mirror Web Site. With help from Tony at GameStats hopefully we can get a redirect set up from the old site to the new one. Until further notice please use the mirror site since we have no way to upgrade the old one.

Dom has made several updates to the site, including new versions of the Disasters and Disease models. As usual, if you notice things that need to be updated, please speak up. You can put them here in this thread. I would like all the model leads to check their respective areas of the web site and make sure that the current discussion thread is the correct one, and also that the related thread list is complete.

Thanks to Dom for going ahead and arranging for the new site, and putting all the work into making the move, and the upgrades!

Last edited by Mark_Everson on 20-10-2001 at 18:33

	12-10-2001 01:33									#2
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When I go to the Clash Forum, I see a frame (with white letters on a black background). When I click on the link to the mirror site, I get an additional frame with white letters on a blue background. Is the black background version the one that we are unable to modify, and hence is out of date? If so is there any way of getting rid of it? I presume that will require a mod to the forum.

The coding entry (in both lists) is horrendously out of date and should be updated, presumably with the D5 Javadocs.

Cheers

	12-10-2001 05:26									#3
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Gary:

As I said above, we're going to try getting a redirect in so the old site just shifts you automatically to the new one. Its just not there yet.

Yep, the coding entry is hopelessly out of date. As are the team list, and status page. D5 gets first priority for my limited time. If you want to be in charge of the new coding information the area is yours .

-Mark

	18-10-2001 07:52									#4
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This is just to let you know you should read the new bit up top.

	19-10-2001 07:17									#5
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I'm currently fixing/updating the current Clash Web Site (http://clash.apolyton.net). The mirrored site (http://www.cullivan.com/coc) has the current information regarding want needed to be updated. I will soon be updating the clash site. I need to find/work out some things with Apolyton/GameStats. I'll keep an up to date status on what happens to the site right here, so take a look every once in a while.

Thanks,
Dom

	20-10-2001 02:48									#6
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Pending Updates:

-Government Model v3.2 (~Done~)

-Riots Model v2.0 (~Done~)

-Social Model v3.0 (~Done~)

-Coding The "Society Model" Structure (~Done~)

Awaiting final word for Demo5 ...

~Dom

Last edited by Dominic on 21-10-2001 at 13:29

	24-10-2001 08:12									#7
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Thanks Dom!

I've sent you several emails with Demo 5 material, and haven't heard anything. I'm assuming you're just busy. But if you see this and you haven't gotten it, please let me know ASAP.

Also, I went to the web site, and the Social Model says its still version 2.0 last updated 6/22/00. Did a file slip by?

Cya,
Mark

Last edited by Mark_Everson on 25-10-2001 at 03:19

	27-10-2001 00:21									#8
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Hey Guys:
I've updated the web site and Demo5 is rollin! Any comments on the site?

Oh and BTW, Great Job on Demo5!

I'm running it on my 500MHz, 384MBs SDRAM, WinXP comp and it works great!

Cheers,
Dom

	27-10-2001 04:17									#9
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Hey Dom:

Thanks for all the hard work!

On the site: I like the general layout a lot!

But I have to say I Hate the auto-scolling text. Anything that automatically scrolls, bounces around, or actively wrests my attention to that part of the screen makes it very difficult for me to view that page. So Pretty Please, lose the scrolling thing

	27-10-2001 19:00									#10
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Hey Dom:

Thanks so much for losing the auto-scrolling bit!

Gary has put his bit up in the Team thread, if you could add that to the team page, I'd appreciate it.

I know I have a lot of text on various parts of the web page that I need to update. When I am burnt out on coding I will try to do the updates and send them along.

	29-10-2001 20:49									#11
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Dom:
I opened a new thread as a continutaion of the Map Generator Model thread (which was full) called Map generator model II.

Mark tells me I have to tell you about it (I am not quite sure why), anyway here it is.

Cheers

	30-10-2001 03:26									#12
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The reason is the web page has links to the current thread in each area. If they're not up to date they're not very useful.

And part of the game is to give him the link url: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=30811

	04-11-2001 20:13									#14
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Clash Team:

I have had some computer upgrades and need for you to resend me any requests for the web site. I'm sorry for the trouble.

(From: 10/30/01 - 11/04/01)

Please send them to dom@cullivan.com.

Thanks,
Dom

	02-12-2001 03:45									#15
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Occasionally I will post Technology Model stuff such as xml files and spreadsheets on my webpage here at school. I made this page my VB homepage, so you can access it by simply clicking on the "www" link in any of my posts.

	06-01-2002 17:40									#16
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Anybody interested?

Dom has been sidelined for months, so its time to at least find a co-webmaster. If the present situation continues I expect someone who works out would become the official webmaster. There are Many updates that need to be made.

If you're interested, respond here or by email.

BTW FTP access to the site isn't available right now, so I can't do even the most vital updates myself. The admins know about the problem, and Hopefully it'll be cleared up shortly.

-Mark

	07-01-2002 08:32									#17
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I just heard from Dom, and he says he's back in the web site upgrade business. But a lot of stuff has gone missing in his email. So its best to re-send anything you want changed or posted. Send to the address a few posts above.

Thanks,

Mark

PS if anyone wants to look over the web site and identify deadlinks, out-of date stuff etc, it would be Greatly appreciated. And we're still looking for a co-webmaster!

	15-01-2002 04:59									#18
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Dom and I are working on updating the web site. So far it is just the mirror, since neither of us have access to the one at Apolyton.

I've written up a new Status page, long overdue. There is a lot of stuff here, so If I've missed something big, or badly mischaracterized something seriousl, please let me know. If anyone has comments or criticisms, you can check it out at the link below. I've also copied the text below that.

http://cullivan.com/coc/misc/clash-status.shtml

New Status page text:

This hasn't got a lot of specifics in it yet. Where we do have information its in the following format:

{coordinator (if we have one), and who else is working in that area -- N = people needed}
Sub-areas with {} means same people as heading one level up

[specific status goals and timing]
P = Pre-Alpha means something that works but not sufficiently refined.
A = Alpha means reasonably close to a complete implementation
Dx = slated for Demo x. Mostly we only plan one or two ahead
[blank] more than two demos away, unless that Right person shows up! :-)


Team Memebers: If you think you're coordinating or working on something and you're not listed, let me know and I'll fix the oversight. These topics vary broadly in the amount of work involved. Some sub-items will require several dedicated people, for others one person probably can do several.



Overall {Mark}

I. Design / Art

Interface: Low-level guts of the main map interface {Gary, Stian} [A]
> Main Interface and Main Map {Stian, Gary} [A]
> Army Assembly/ Combat Info {Gary} [A]
> Economy / Trade / Merchants {Mark, Gary} [P]
> Government / Internal Politics {Mark, Gary} [P]
> Cultures {Mark, Gary} [P]
> Diplomacy {N} [D8]
> Technological / Social Advancement {Gary} [D7]

Graphics: {Stian, Gary, N} [P]
> Main Interface Layout and Art {Stian} [P]
> Map Terrain Tiles {Stian} [P]
> City Tiles {N} [P]
> Army Graphics {Stian, N} [P]
> Other Interface Art (many interfaces) {N}
> Misc. (Logo Art for web page, manual…) {N}

Military: {Gary, Laurent} [A, P] (Coding and Design Status Combined)
> Strategic Issues (mobilization, etc.) {Gary, Mark}
> Movement & Supply Rules {Gary, Laurent, Mark} [P]
> Ground Combat {} [A]
> Naval & Air Combat {Gary, Laurent, N}
> Specific Units (+ unit design system if we do it) {Laurent, Gary}

Economy: {Mark} [P, but fairly far along] (Coding and Design Status Combined)
> Basic Market-Based System {} [A]
> Infrastructure {Mark, Axi} [P]
> Special Resources {} [P]
> Trade / Merchants {} [P]

Social Model: {roquijad}
Governments {} [A]
Cultures {} [A]
Riots (Happiness) {} [A]

Diplomacy: {Mikael} [P]

Technological / Social Advancement: {Richard, Lord God Jinnai} [P, but far along]

Scenario and Customization Abilities: {Laurent, Gary, N} [P]
> Map Editor {}
> Scenario Editor {}

Manual / Help Files / Tutorials {Mark, Desperately Need Someone!}

Multiplayer Issues {N}

> Map Generation Model {Gary, N}
> Wonders (?) or other Player-interest features {LGJ, N}
> Disease & Natural Disasters Model {Simon}

> Characters {Lord God Jinnai}

> AI {Mark}

II. Coding: {Gary}

Interfaces: {Gary} [A, P]

Graphics Handling Routines {Gary} [A, P]

Military: See under Design above

Economy: See under Design above

Social: {Mark}
Governments {} [D7]
Cultures {} [D7]
Riots (Happiness) {} [D7]

Diplomacy: {N, Desperately!}

Technological / Social Advancement: {Gary} [D7]

Scenario and Customization Abilities: {Gary, Laurent} [D8]

Multiplayer {N}

Customization and I/O Protocols {Gary, Chris Maeda, N}

General Tools {Gary}

Map Generator {Gary}

Disease {N, but not high priority}

Demo(6 out; working on #7): {Gary, Laurent, Mark}

AI Coding {Gary}
Unit Pathing {} [A]
Map AI {Jim Cockram code, old} [P]
Diplomatic AI {}
Military Sector AI {} [D7]
Economic AI {}
Government / Culture AI {}
Overall Strategy {}

Feels-Right Features (Civs that behave like real people) { N }

III. Clash Web Site {John Maez (Dom), Need a Co-Webmaster!}



http://cullivan.com/coc/misc/clash-status.shtml

	15-01-2002 23:31									#19
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Hi Mark,

If you want I could get back my old job of manual guy - I read the forum everyday and I should be able to do it, I just don't have a lot of time to contribute in the forum...

	16-01-2002 06:52									#20
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You've made my day Glad to have you back!

My suggested plan of attack:
I will send you the D6 manual I did... Can you get D6, and run it through its paces, and then Improve the Manual? Axi especially was critical of it, so maybe you can get from him what he thinks it needs most. By the time you've updated the D6 manual, and maybe thrown in a tutorial or two, we will hopefully be closing in on D7. I can send you, and maybe Axi, advance copies, and you can get the new parts for the D7 manual going. You can look in the D7&8 planning thread to see what's coming. Lots of Good stuff!

Thanks again!

Mark

	16-01-2002 19:44									#21
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No problem

	22-01-2002 06:51									#22
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Since the Clash website can be updated at Kull's site, I suggest that we post some new screenshots from the game, showing the roads, the fog-of-war and the general interface.

I also doubt the usefulness of that poll we have there. We should either change it or post some useful polls in here...

edit: The manual is something I could help with, but don't count on me right now, since Real Life is panting at my heels. I'd love to have the next demo in advance.

Last edited by axi on 22-01-2002 at 06:58

	22-01-2002 07:13									#23
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Hey axi! You know I was just going over the web site, and one note I made, literally about 10 minutes ago, was to get up a Demo 6 screenshot to go with the old Demo 4 one. Could you do that? Just set up things however you think would look best to show off the features, and then screen grab, and email it to me and Dom?

If so, thanks. If not, I'll do it eventually anyway.

	09-03-2002 23:18									#24
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We now have a redirect in from the main frame page of the Apolyton site to the mirror one. Thanks Dan!

So at least people coming in through the 'front door' should get the more up-to-date stuff on the mirror.

We are still looking for web page help to do updates if anyone is interested in volunteering. Just let me know here or by email!

	10-03-2002 01:28									#25
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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone needed anything updated on the site? I think there are a few things that Mark sent in, but I was wondering if anything else needed to be update.

I'm sorry Mark. These days I have "a lot" of things going on, and it's truly hard to find some time to do things, but that doesn't mean that I can disappear, right?

Well, please post/e mail your update requests.

Thanks and sorry,
~John
AKA - (Dominic)

	29-03-2002 14:44									#26
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Hi Dom!

It also occurred to me it'd be good to search the whole site for my old MediaOne email address, and replace it with the comcast one.

Thanks!

Mark

	25-04-2002 04:15									#27
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The Apolyton side of the web site should become accessable again soon following the shift to a new server.

On another topic we've got a new guy interested in being co-webmaster. Hopefully he'll stop by shortly and introduce himself!

	30-05-2002 17:45									#28
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I went to the page, which at this point is just a redirection to the mirror site. With Netscape I got a "NOT FOUND The requested URL /animate.js was not found on this server" error in the left-hand frame. Nothing but the header loaded in the main frame.

I went to MS IE 4.0, which I never use 'cause Gates is a distant cousin of the Antichrist , and I got a script error. "Line: 1, Character: 1, Syntax error, Code: 0"

I told it to keep running the script and it seems everything works OK.

	31-05-2002 08:06									#29
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Hey Straybow, thanks for the info. Lets see what the webmaster types have to say about it...

	31-05-2002 09:23									#30
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that's very odd ... i'm running winxp pro with internet explorer 6.0.2600 and i don't have any script errors ... umm ... other than that ... ???

Dom