07-10-2001 03:37									#1
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Look at what is outlined in red in the picture below, and also check the appropriate image on the civ3.com gallery (page 4, 2nd down on left). There appears to be some white, fluffy stuff around this square, and this can also be seen on another square on the coast just above Tours. This is in the industrial age and there is nothing else I could see it could be. Are these polluted tiles, represented with the skulls on Civ2?

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	07-10-2001 03:38									#2
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No, these are fireworks, showing we love the king day. Dan confirmed it quite a while ago.

	07-10-2001 03:52									#3
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here is some polution though:

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	07-10-2001 04:03									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Nemo here is some polution though:

IMO that is not pollution, that's the Global Warming indicator.

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Maybe since we don't see any pollution on the screen, it is the AI's. That would be awesome, since the AI cheated and never produced pollution in Civ II.

	07-10-2001 04:06									#6
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quote: Originally posted by PGM IMO that is not pollution, that's the Global Warming indicator.

oh, sorry...i consider them the same thing. i.e. global warming caused by polution. so i guess thee have been no tiles with polution on yet that i have seen

	07-10-2001 04:11									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Nemo so i guess thee have been no tiles with polution on yet that i have seen

That makes two of us. (and I think I've seen all published screenshots so far)

	07-10-2001 04:11									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Nemo i.e. global warming caused by polution.

That bugged me too. Global warming was caused by any pollution, even nuclear pollution. I think you should have a global warming and a nuclear winter meter, so if you balance them out, you should stay fine

Uh-oh, global warming is going up. Looks like I have to nuke someone. Take THAT, Tenochtitlán!

	07-10-2001 04:17									#9
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut That bugged me too. Global warming was caused by any pollution, even nuclear pollution. I think you should have a global warming and a nuclear winter meter, so if you balance them out, you should stay fine Uh-oh, global warming is going up. Looks like I have to nuke someone. Take THAT, Tenochtitlán!

that would be funny! i'd have a heck of alot of "nuclear testing" sites

	07-10-2001 04:41									#10
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we saw trash cans in early pictures.

maybe thats pollution?

	07-10-2001 05:57									#11
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IIRC, there was one of those "cans" outside of Berlin, so it must be a new luxury resource: beer

I don't think a trash can would make a very good symbol for pollution. I think it should be a gray cloud. And it should definitely be different from nuclear pollution, for which an atom would make a neat symbol.

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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX we saw trash cans in early pictures. maybe thats pollution?

I don't recall seeing that, maybe that's it. But if it's from early screenshots, it might not be the exact same symbol now.

	07-10-2001 06:01									#13
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gawd, ive had enough!!!


ive been on this site for a year-and a half now and i STILL dont know what IIRC means
ive figured out EVERYTHING but i cant begin to fathom what that stands for!

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If pollution was represented by trash cans that would be really stupid. I think the system is find as it is, but it would be kind of neat if nuke pollution and regular pollution were different. Though why in the world would nuking someone balance out global warming.

	07-10-2001 06:08									#15
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quote: Originally posted by dainbramaged13 gawd, ive had enough!!! ive been on this site for a year-and a half now and i STILL dont know what IIRC means ive figured out EVERYTHING but i cant begin to fathom what that stands for!

I'll spare you more pain. IIRC, it's an acronym for If I Recall Correctly. Took me two months to figure it out.

	07-10-2001 09:45									#16
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Or is it: If I Re Call? Hmm... Not that it matters one bit..

Those fireworks look a little like cotton. But I guess I'll take your word for it [WLKDday].


Now, do you know what AFAIK is?

	07-10-2001 10:09									#17
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AFAIK: As Far As I Know

god, i've been on the net so long.

	07-10-2001 10:10									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba Or is it: If I Re Call? Hmm... Not that it matters one bit.. Those fireworks look a little like cotton. But I guess I'll take your word for it [WLKDday]. Now, do you know what AFAIK is?

As Far As I Know

(i think )

	07-10-2001 11:22									#19
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut That bugged me too. Global warming was caused by any pollution, even nuclear pollution. I think you should have a global warming and a nuclear winter meter, so if you balance them out, you should stay fine Uh-oh, global warming is going up. Looks like I have to nuke someone. Take THAT, Tenochtitlán!

We know climatic systems are non-linear.

	07-10-2001 11:27									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger We know climatic systems are non-linear.

Yes, I know. After the second sentence in that post, I was being sarcastic.

	07-10-2001 11:27									#21
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Yea, so now there is an indicator of global warming?

	07-10-2001 12:04									#22
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There ws in Civ II, too. It was the little sun near the date.

	07-10-2001 15:38									#23
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And here was me thinking it was a giant flying sheep.

	07-10-2001 16:49									#24
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Maybe you're looking for something like this:

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	08-10-2001 00:30									#25
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quote: Originally posted by java4me Yea, so now there is an indicator of global warming?

not only was it in Civ II like JellyDonut said, but it was in Civ I, too.

	08-10-2001 00:31									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Maybe you're looking for something like this:

HEY! did you draw that?!

	08-10-2001 01:39									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Nemo HEY! did you draw that?!

Dear lord, I hope so.

	08-10-2001 06:12									#28
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What, you dont think it looks professional??

	08-10-2001 06:26									#29
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It could probaly use some work.
(that was hilarous skanky burns thanks for the laugh)

	08-10-2001 07:10									#30
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quote: Originally posted by JellyDonut That bugged me too. Global warming was caused by any pollution, even nuclear pollution. I think you should have a global warming and a nuclear winter meter, so if you balance them out, you should stay fine Uh-oh, global warming is going up. Looks like I have to nuke someone. Take THAT, Tenochtitlán!

Umm...Nuclear Winter and Global Warming are essentially the same thing. The only reason that the temperatures go different directions is the rate of doing such a thing: Nuclear bombs do so much, so fast, that they skip over the warming phase and go right into global cooling (the phase after any global warming) and possibly an Ice Age.

Methinks somebody has been watching too much Futurama ..