09-10-2001 22:20									#1
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...buy the expansion pack if the only thing it offers is MP support?

I know this proberly wont happen, I'm just curious about those "what if..." questions (And I am kinda bored at the moment)

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	09-10-2001 22:28									#2
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yeah, not likely, but if that were the case. No way. And I'd hope Firaxis would be ashamed of themselves

	09-10-2001 22:39									#3
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No... I won't play MP anyway

	09-10-2001 22:46									#4
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Expansion pack?

They can keep it. I only plan on buying 1 thing from Firaxis. EVERYTHING should be included. If it isn't, I ain't gonna buy it.

If it can't be done right to start, they don't deserve my money.

It shouldnt be "gold" unless it is complete. This two and three parts of a game stuff is crap. Naked greed.

	09-10-2001 22:51									#5
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This is a useless thread (please don't take offense).

This is because even the stupidest companies wouldn't dare release an expansion pack that just includes MP. The *average* player plays SP (many MP players don't want to play Civ MP because it takes too long), and why would they leave out the *clear* majority of players when attempting to sell an expansion?

I'm sorry but the thought is absurd and I don't know what made you think of this. It's more likely that they would leave out MP altogether even in the Xpack than include it exclusively.

	09-10-2001 22:57									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Pembleton This is a useless thread (please don't take offense). This is because even the stupidest companies wouldn't dare release an expansion pack that just includes MP. The *average* player plays SP (many MP players don't want to play Civ MP because it takes too long), and why would they leave out the *clear* majority of players when attempting to sell an expansion? I'm sorry but the thought is absurd and I don't know what made you think of this. It's more likely that they would leave out MP altogether even in the Xpack than include it exclusively.

I know this is all absurd thought, at this moment I actually (believe it or not) don't think this poll should never have been made in the first place...I don't know what was going on inside my head in the first place Anyway, the poll is made and who knows...maybe we all gets suprised and somebody picks number 1

	10-10-2001 00:23									#7
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But isn't this exactly what happened with civ 2 MPG?

So we know that some people would buy it just for MP. But any gaming company that employs such a cheap strategy does not deserve to get business.

All the civ 2 expansions were really cheap b/c of Microprose. I don't think Firaxis will do the same way. SMACX had a lot of extra stuff that really improved on SMAC. I would expect to get a similar if not better x-pack from Firaxis for Civ 3.

	10-10-2001 00:31									#8
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You are Firaxis and you've spent millions on developing this game over many years, plus other games you were developing (e.g. Dinosaurs) have been canned/suspended so you are not delivering much revenue at the moment.

Your flagship product, which has probably 99.X% of people who play it single-player only, is just about finished. The only thing that isn't quite right is the multiplayer stuff.

And Christmas is coming up, with people itching to give or receive a computer game as a present.

Would you release it? You betcha!

	10-10-2001 00:37									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Akron But isn't this exactly what happened with civ 2 MPG?

Civ2 was released ten years ago when MP was a first person "shoot 'em up" oddity, now it is a standard feature we expect from a new game. Making MP into an add on would be a flagrant rip off, which I for one wouldn't expect from Firaxis. Patching in MP after release isn't ideal either, but I'll take that on the chin so long as they are trying and not just playing the game.

David

	10-10-2001 03:32									#10
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How likely is an expansion-pack that includes MP only?
Can anyone here give one single example of an expansion-pack ever released, that had MP alone included?

Frankly, I dont understand why some of you MP-lovers torment yourself like this. Why? Firaxis have stated clearly, more the one time, that they HAVE extensive plans on including MP. It just that they had to postpone it 6-8 months, until they (most likely) can bundle it together with this expected beefy expansion-pack.

	10-10-2001 03:55									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Assur No... I won't play MP anyway

Ditto.

Honestly, I think MP is overrated as a selling point on a lot of games. Developers should put more time into building better programmed opponents and skip multiplayer on most titles. Unfortunately I see people posting stuff like "without multiplayer this game doesn't have a chance", which is simply untrue; the gaming press has taken this stance as well for some reason. There are a lot of people (the majority of us, in fact) that buy games simple to play solo.

	10-10-2001 05:12									#12
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I absolutely never play multi player. When I look for a computer game, I am looking for a strategy game with a good AI for single player.

Basically, I want to start and stop by my own schedule, stop and mull when I want for as long as I want, quit if I'm way ahead or way behind... and pause whenever the family needs me. Multi-player doesn't offer that.

	10-10-2001 07:53									#13
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I wish I could control my CIV urges, but I just can not.

Basically, Firaxis has mesmerized me and can pretty much clean me out as far as purchasing their CIV products are concerned.

I will buy anything!

	10-10-2001 09:28									#14
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no

i'm not going to buy civ3, so an MP expansion pack by itself will be useless. i will buy 1 game intact, not each piece sold separately

	10-10-2001 09:50									#15
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If I like civ3 (of course I will) and I hear good things about MP, then I'll most likely buy it. Hopefully, it won't come to that.

	10-10-2001 10:20									#16
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I can't say I was interested in MP until a few months ago when I started to play SMAC PBeM and suddenly my eyes were opened. Playing against someone, talking to them, trying to eliminate them and avoiding being eliminated by them is a wonderful gaming experience that the AI cannot recreate. I know how to beat the computer but I don't know how to beat every human being. That is the challenge. Competing against someone allows me to see how good or bad I am at a game.

Whereas I have no problem with masturbation there comes a time when involving someone else makes life very sweet.

	10-10-2001 11:51									#17
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I only play multiplayer games now because it is so much better. But I would never pay extra for it.