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TechWins
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Arizona
Apr 2001
time: 22:15
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My whole intent on this thread is to not bash Civ3, for I feel Civ3 will be a fantastic game for myself at least, yet to show the dangers Civ3 may cause.
I am one who is fairly new (about a year in the making) to the Civ series, which in turn should mean that the game shall still be innovative and exciting to me. How much that excitement tears at my life is still unforseen but my I thought is that it will again be of great extent.
$10 of mine has already been invested into Civ3 with my purchase of the Civ3 Pre-Order. Although, the other $40 I will need to dish out (which is fair) to buy the game may not occur. The reasoning for me being unsure on buying Civ3 or not, is for my fear of what will happen to my life. Here's a quote from the "Making of the Civ3 Video" quote on quote "We've ruined your life again" quote unquote. Now do I, you, or anybody else what that to happen? Now one might think I'm joking or being sarcastic but this is a legible concern I have. Some around raise concerns around here of "what will I do to keep my girlfriend/wife happy, while I'm playing Civ3". If that is a concern I had I would not buy the game. For that is a concern I might have in the coming days. Even if some of you have raised those concerns in a jokingly matter you should still think twice about buying the game. You know Civ3 is going to fully occupy your life as soon as you buy and you won't be able to do anything about it. Myself I don't want to lose what appears to be the girl of my dreams (being completely honest about the girl being completely amazing) for some game. Ok, so maybe only the relationship will be damaged for some time being but for others you could lose somebody special. I'm being serious, this is a likely situation. Hypothetically you are supposed to call your gf at 8pm to talk to her but instead you are way too focused on defeating the Russians or your gf calls you at 8pm but you couldn't hear the phone because again you were way too focused on defeating the Russians. Now this may be no big deal most of the time but if it was important at the time or becomes a continuing situation. Basically my point is that everybody needs to think twice before buying Civ3!
My example of a gf/wife is only the tip of the iceberg in the part of your life that could be ruined or damaged. I may just be playing too much into this but it still seems some what probable. Maybe all the anticipation of playing Civ3 is gettnig to my head, I don't know. Either way everybody should think twice before buying Civ3; I will be taking into strong considerations the consequences of buying Civ3.
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yin26
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This space reserved for Darkstar.
Apr 1999
time: 14:15
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The trick in life is this: All good things in moderation. If you can't handle a gf and Civ3 at the same time, chances are quite good you're going to have big problems with something else someday. So: Buy Civ3 but control youself. Regulate your playing time. If you gf is your priority, keep it that way but also play the game for 30 mins a day before sleeping, etc.
For me, in grad school, I had a great gf, full-time classes, two part-time jobs AND played lots and lots of computer games. I graduated Magna *** Laude. Mind you: I didn't have time to become an expert in any of the games I played, nor did I have time to make the best mods ever, etc., but I had a great time playing them...isn't that the point?
HINT: Keep your game time as a REWARD for handling all your 'real-life' issues for the day FIRST. I never played games until my paper was written, etc., and this helped push me to get the paper done early. That kind of thing.
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Grim Legacy
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War Machine, Barbaric King, Relentless, Remorseless, Guiltless and Unclean!
Aug 2001
time: 06:15
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quote:
Originally posted by yin26
The trick in life is this: All good things in moderation. If you can't handle a gf and Civ3 at the same time, chances are quite good you're going to have big problems with something else someday. So: Buy Civ3 but control youself. Regulate your playing time. If you gf is your priority, keep it that way but also play the game for 30 mins a day before sleeping, etc.
For me, in grad school, I had a great gf, full-time classes, two part-time jobs AND played lots and lots of computer games. I graduated Magna *** Laude. Mind you: I didn't have time to become an expert in any of the games I played, nor did I have time to make the best mods ever, etc., but I had a great time playing them...isn't that the point?
HINT: Keep your game time as a REWARD for handling all your 'real-life' issues for the day FIRST. I never played games until my paper was written, etc., and this helped push me to get the paper done early. That kind of thing. |
Though your message is reasonable, it presupposes that there is a clear distinction between being able to muster the discipline to 'handle' a game like Civ and the rest of ones life, and not being able to. This is in fact a fallacy.
It cannot be denied that it is virtually impossible to deal with any thing in ones life in such a way that it can be detached from the rest, or at least not causing interference.
Let me use your 30mins before bedtime example: it is perfectly acceptable to you or your significant others maybe, but it might not be for others ("why do you insist on playing that stupid game every night!"). Even if it were, there will be an impact on yourself: despite being absorbed in the game, you force yourself to go to sleep. Speaking out of my own experience with near-bedtime gaming: you may sleep badly, dreaming about Civ and beating the Russians etc.
In other words...there will always be *some* impact. Maybe not as disastrous as Techwins feared, but that which remains should not be downplayed.
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Provost Harrison
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The farce is strong with this one.
Feb 2000
time: 05:15
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Well I have been playing civ games for many years and I think I am a lot better at self regulating than I used to be. I still have time though as well; I am not in a long term relationship nor is my work life especially taxing (I am a PhD student so I just work during the daytimes and make sure everything is done).
But yeah, civ is damn addictive, it has been my drug of choice for many many years  I have spent a lot of time playing civ, yeah, but on the other hand, it has also saved me from extreme boredom on many occassions when I was younger, and as that old adage goes: 'Light hands make the devils work'. I have managed to fit everything in, got a good education, an Oxford degree and a social life yet still enjoy a good game of civ now and again. Hell, at least it isn't smoking or heroin, and it isn't the same downward spiral. With a bit of training, you can do it in moderation, and hell, use the eagerness to play to cheer up a sad and miserable day...
I will get the game, as after being in the lab all day, it is a great way to unwind and vent on some poor other nation
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ajbera
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of the Cookieville Minimum Security Orphanarium
Apr 1999
time: 05:15
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Techwins, you have to learn to prioritize. You have a busy schedule, and you may have to make some sacrifices to play, but think hard about your sacrifices. Don't skip schoolwork to play (I would, were I still in college, but I still wouldn't recommend it), and if this lady is as spectacular as you feel, don't sacrifice time spent with her (as wonderful as Civ3 will hopefully be, it doesn't hold a candle to a (near) perfect woman.) However, if she is really terrific, she won't feel snubbed if you want to spend some time playing. My gf will happily do her own thing while I play games, but I'm lucky enough to have the best gf in the world  .
I have sacrificed sleep for a good game. I have also struggled to complete some work at the last minute because I was playing games when I should have been working. It seems you will already have to shuffle your existing duties to make time for your visiting family. After their departure, you can allocate that time back to what it was originally spent doing, or you can play Civ with it. You may want to give up an hour of sleep to play, or every other workout session. I've lost God knows how many hours that could have been spent reading (one of my most favorite pasttimes) playing Half-life and Civ2; looking ahead, I see more hours of my life whittled away by Civ3, Neverwinter Nights and the Baldurs Gate games. Luckily, my job gives me plenty of free time, and my girlfriend is still happy to do her own thing when I'm amusing myself. I just try to make certain my work doesn't suffer, and that I let my gf know all the time how damn lucky I am to have her. So, I've sacrificed some reading time and some sleeping time to play my games. C'est la vie.
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Steve Clark
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Colorado Springs, CO
Oct 1999
time: 22:15
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I remember yin and I discussing this before and I agreed with him then as a I do now. I am 41 yrs old, with a wife (and full-time mom) and a 4 yr old boy. When I go home, it is my turn with him until he goes to bed at 7. My playtime, as it has been in the past 5-6 years, is from 7-9/10 most nights. That's an average of 14 hours per week and 60 hours per month. There are about 7 games that I like to play on a rotation basis and most of them takes about the usual 20-30 hours to play. (That's one reason why I have never accepted the invitations to join in on a Civ2 MP game).
Even with Civ3, my playtime WILL/CAN NOT alter. I'll play for a few weeks at first, then rotate something else in to give me a break, and then it'll be back Civ3 (hopefully some scenarios will have been developed by then). So in other words, I don't view Civ3 as any different than any other games that I have bought and added to my rotation list. Even if for some reason, Civ3 doesn't take hold, I certainly got plently of other games to keep me busy during my limited playtime.
Apart from my frustration with those here who do not understand the power and functionalities of customization, I also react against those that makes this game (or any other game) an all-consuming event in their lives. Act like Civ3 is a privilege and bonus, instead of a necessity.
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cassembler
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Loud Cow Productions
Oct 2001
time: 23:15
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Myself I don't want to lose what appears to be the girl of my dreams for some game. |
Yeah I lost a girl 'cause of SMAC, but that was a conscious decision. (It's better than "Hey baby, I slept with some chick last night, I think, I'm not sure") If you have to make a tough decision between a video game and a chick, the chick's probably not any better that the other thousands that you could be with. My decision was easy.
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My example of a gf/wife is only the tip of the iceberg in the part of your life that could be ruined or damaged. |
Welcome to adulthood. It doesn't ever get any easier.
Ahhhhh... You have a valid complaint, my friend, but if you play games, it's part of your personality and lifestyle. If your friends/ sig. others don't understand that you just feel like staying home tonight, then politely remind them that you've killed someone before (jk). My current girlfriend and I call it "Cave Time," while hers is called "Shopping Time." Of course, you can't spend 24/7/365 playing video games... you'll die.
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"Some vices miss what is right because they are deficient, other becasue they are excessive, in feelings or in actions, while virtue finds and chooses the mean." -Aristotle (Ref: SMAC) |
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10-10-2001 09:28
) to play Civ3. People need to be warned in the sacrifices they will need to make. 
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