10-10-2001 20:31									#1
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I am just got these techs and can't seem to find the carrier deck special or the submersable one either. I only have foil and carrier chassis. I have never built a carrier either.

	10-10-2001 20:43									#2
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These two are special abilities, not chassis(es?)

In the workshop, design a foil or cruiser transport, then add special abilities, and there they should be!

	10-10-2001 20:49									#3
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I thought they were specials, I am saying do they only go on certain chassis.

	10-10-2001 21:00									#4
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Yes, only on foil and cruiser chassis - the repair bay and carrier deck only work with the 'troop transport' module, but the submarine hull one works with any foil or cruiser.

	15-10-2001 20:24									#5
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Thanks I didn't realise you had to put the transport module on the ship.

	16-10-2001 07:28									#6
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Don't count on the AI not seeing your 'submarines'- I do believe this is a broken feature, just like hiding in fungus.

	16-10-2001 18:38									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba Don't count on the AI not seeing your 'submarines'- I do believe this is a broken feature, just like hiding in fungus.

But the hidden submersibles do stay hidden to MP opponents, do they not?

	17-10-2001 01:50									#8
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Yup. That's about the only use for sub special ability- to hide from the MP's. Otherwise, you might as well be broadcasting a location beacon at full blast, with the AI seeing everything. Sigh.... wish I could sneak up on them,

	17-10-2001 02:57									#9
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NorthSwordsman

Well do you want a stupid but all-seing opponent or a intelligent but not all-seing opponent?

	17-10-2001 03:44									#10
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KnowHow2,

That is assuming that the human opponent is capable of rational planning and thought. Not all players are created equal, unfortunately. (And no, I'm not insulting YOU or anyone else for that matter, ok? )

But you make a valid point. Who needs subs against the AI anyhow? A 5 year old could beat it.

	17-10-2001 03:53									#11
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NSwordsman,

I still owe you half of an favour (for halping me out with AXT046) so sometimes further down the road, if you want, I have a duell aganist you.

	17-10-2001 04:33									#12
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hmmm... sounds intriguing. I would have to pass at the current time, through- I'm up to my neck in 7 pbem games, 4 of which are heating up rapidly. But I will take you up on that offer when I do have a free slot, ok? A nice little war sounds great.

	17-10-2001 07:01									#13
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Does anyone know whether the AI can see cloaked ships?

Ned

	17-10-2001 08:32									#14
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If it works like my attempt at cloaked crawlers, an AI unit will spot 'em if they attempt to move into the same tile with 'em. That means you not only need to cloak the unit, but you need to keep it out of shipping lanes as much as possible. Not verified.

Wonder how cloaked submarines would work?

	05-03-2002 01:01									#15
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I've found a good strategy to be building sub-carriers and loading them with planes in advance of an assault, then parking them way offshore and thumping the enemy just before my sub-transports come in and take the beachhead.

Hopefully none of the games I'm currently playing will read this thread.

	05-03-2002 01:45									#16
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quote: Originally posted by arborman I've found a good strategy to be building sub-carriers and loading them with planes in advance of an assault, then parking them way offshore and thumping the enemy just before my sub-transports come in and take the beachhead. Hopefully none of the games I'm currently playing will read this thread.

Thanx for the info, arborman! We'll be waiting for those ships when they come!

	05-03-2002 04:37									#17
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All the more reason to follow Doctrine: Defense invented by Vel and using Offshore Radar Trawlers/Platforms. For more on this, go to: http://www.civgaming.net/smac/acad_orp.shtml.

	09-03-2002 19:55									#18
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That link is borken.

Also, repair bay function is broken --don't bother with it.

	09-03-2002 21:48									#19
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Are units with the cloacking device and deep pressure hull visible with sensor arrays? If so, they haven't got much use, even in MP.

	09-03-2002 22:26									#20
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quote: Originally posted by DilithiumDad That link is borken. Also, repair bay function is broken --don't bother with it.

oops.

http://www.civgaming.net/smac/acad_orp.shtml