13-10-2001 04:03									#1
	Provost Gloats: I Am Right, It Is Saltpeter: Confirmed! Suffering from ads?

Reading through the new civ of the week, I noticed the special unit is the cossack, an upgraded version of the cavalry.

I will now quote from the civ of the week:

quote: The Cossack is an upgraded version of the cavalry. Like cavalry, it requires both horses and saltpeter to build, but it also adds an additional point of defense to an already formidable set of combat statistics. With their high movement rates, deadly offensive capability, and solid defensive rating, the Cossack is a unit you don't want to tangle with.

So it looks like my educated guess was right, this mystery white powder most certainly is saltpeter (see Gramphos's thread on resources in the game to see what I am talking about)

Thankyou, thankyou ladies and gentlemen

	13-10-2001 04:07									#2
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hmmm, it must be geting late....

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	13-10-2001 04:59									#3
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applauds; congradulations

	13-10-2001 05:39									#4
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Saltpeter - required for gunpowder, but causes slowing in the rate of population growth!

	13-10-2001 05:49									#5
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quote: Saltpeter - required for gunpowder, but causes slowing in the rate of population growth!

Why would it cause a slowing in the population growth.
isn't saltpeter just cow manure burnt and then grinded up into a powder?

	13-10-2001 05:55									#6
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Could pretty flowers be a resource required for building the french unique unit?

	13-10-2001 05:56									#7
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Nope, saltpeter would be mined as it is a crystalline deposit. Quite as to why it effects population growth, it escapes me. Must be a cryptic joke...

	13-10-2001 06:18									#8
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Could you give the link?

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quote: Originally posted by squid Could pretty flowers be a resource required for building the french unique unit?

Nope, snails and garlic, obviously

	13-10-2001 06:26									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Nope, saltpeter would be mined as it is a crystalline deposit. Quite as to why it effects population growth, it escapes me. Must be a cryptic joke...

Oh, whoops, my source must be wrong.

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well you can mine it or you can extract it from elsewhere... I do believe they used to use urine and crap for this purpose. Where the urine comes from, well, there always seems to be a lot of people around....

	13-10-2001 15:23									#12
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Big deal.

So you got it right once for a change, Provost. Just ignore the times you were wrong.

You could become a professional psychic

	13-10-2001 15:49									#13
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quote: Originally posted by squid Could pretty flowers be a resource required for building the french unique unit?

LOL

	13-10-2001 16:10									#14
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i dont see how flowers could make a musketeer... oh wait, i missed the word french my first time reading

isnt Saltpeter that stuff they give the navy guys to refrain from homosexuality?

	13-10-2001 16:23									#15
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As soon as you came up with the idea I thought it was right, that was why I added it to the list (followed by a '?'). Now you have proven yourself correct and the '?' is gone.

	13-10-2001 17:05									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Rakki well you can mine it or you can extract it from elsewhere... I do believe they used to use urine and crap for this purpose. Where the urine comes from, well, there always seems to be a lot of people around....

The French soldier collected crap from the regiments during the Napoleonic wars to make a saltpeter substitute. The other popular ingredient in that mix was seaweed, which incidently led to the discovery of iodine when they cleaned their vats with sulphuric acid.

But I digress..

	13-10-2001 17:08									#17
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From what I have heard, saltpeter has certain ....effects.... on the more libidinous impulses ......

	13-10-2001 18:34									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Jingo isnt Saltpeter that stuff they give the navy guys to refrain from homosexuality?

I think that's bromide, at least that's what I'm on to ease the reation to the countdown to Civ3 release.

Wait a minute, if saltpeter is a strategic resource then all gun powder units will require it. Damn, but that's going to be difficult.

David

	13-10-2001 22:35									#19
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Saltpeter was used in the past, though, to keep the soldiers from humping their CO's leg.

	13-10-2001 22:41									#20
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Saltpeter was used in the past, though, to keep the soldiers from humping their CO's leg.

did it work? i remember that a litre of bromide could not get our boners down when i was in the army. still we managed to refrain from humping each other's legs

	13-10-2001 23:01									#21
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who gets the Cossack?

	13-10-2001 23:02									#22
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If I remember, saltpeter was obtained from places with substantial manure. It crystallized out at the bottom and the crystals were dug out and collected to be used to make gunpowder. As is also reduces the ability to achieve an erec*tion (so there Net Nanny) - it could result in reduced population growth.

It used to be used in a number of places - army, prisons, etc. to reduce various....complications.

I think it is still may be obtained from animal operations (for example see in RRT sheep farms) and used in making explosives.

Looking forward to CIII - unless it doesn't work, then I'll be CIIIPO'd.

	13-10-2001 23:06									#23
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Where did you guys go to school? Saltpeter reduces libido. They used to use it in food served during basic training (illegal now if memory serves). Also, some cigarette manufacturers use it as a preservative.