17-10-2001 03:40									#1
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Not sure if this has been mentioned (apologies if it has).

Is there a reason behind why all UU's seem to be the same colour for each age? (I may be jumping the gun here slightly).

It also seems to me that most civs will want to be at war in the first half of the game a lot more than the later stages to gain advantage militarily with their UU's plus maybe get their golden age.

Seems to me that the Americans and Germans have a big disadvantage, militarily early in the game and later on politicaly. If they decide to take advantage of their UU in late stages of game their reputation will be damaged when attacking whereas other civs reps will probably have healed by the modern times? Also gaining resources needed to construct their UU's maybe more problematic than in past times...

Ancient Age (Blue):

Romans - Legion (3/3/1)
Greeks- Hoplite (1/3/1)
Indians - War Elephant (4/3/2)
Aztecs - Jaguar Warrior (1/1/2)
Iroquois - Mounted Warrior (3/1/2)
Egyptians - War Chariot (2/1/2)
Babylonians - Bowman (2/1/2)
Persians - Immortals (4/2/1)
Zulus - Impis (?/?/?)

Renaissance Age (Red):

Chinese - Rider (4/4/3)
Japanese - Samurai (?/?/?)
Russians - Cossack (6/4/3)
French - Musketeer (?/?/?)
English - Man-o-War (?/?/?)

Industrial Age (Illuminous Green?):

Germans - Panzer Tank (?/?/?)

Modern Age (Fairy Pink?):

Americans - F15 Fighter (?/?/?)

	17-10-2001 03:55									#2
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quote: Is there a reason behind why all UU's seem to be the same colour for each age? (I may be jumping the gun here slightly).

I have no idea what you are talking about???

quote: Seems to me that the Americans and Germans have a big disadvantage

This is the contrary of what many people think, including me. The two of them will have the best unit's from the modern age till the end of the game. Where as lets say the Zulus will only have the best unit for a limited time. Plus, they will be able to receive their GA when it will be more productive.

quote: Also gaining resources needed to construct their UU's maybe more problematic than in past times...

How is that? In the early times most of the resources needed may not have been discovered yet, the resources will still need to be found, and not enough man power/money/time to construct the neccasary needs for a resource to be harvested are some fo the reasons why it is harder in the early times. Where as in the modern age most of the resources will have been discovered, most of the land will have been explored, and more capabilities to perform the task of harvesting a resource.

Also, none of your comments have been mentioned before.

	17-10-2001 04:11									#3
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quote: Originally posted by TechWins I have no idea what you are talking about???

All the unique units appear to be the same colour for a certain age period. - Hope this makes it more clear.

quote: Originally posted by TechWins This is the contrary of what many people think, including me. The two of them will have the best unit's from the modern age till the end of the game. Where as lets say the Zulus will only have the best unit for a limited time. Plus, they will be able to receive their GA when it will be more productive.

Americans and Gemans may have already had GA by peaceful means by wonder construction already in an earlier age.

quote: Originally posted by TechWins How is that? In the early times most of the resources needed may not have been discovered yet, the resources will still need to be found, and not enough man power/money/time to construct the neccasary needs for a resource to be harvested are some fo the reasons why it is harder in the early times. Where as in the modern age most of the resources will have been discovered, most of the land will have been explored, and more capabilities to perform the task of harvesting a resource.

My point is a lot of land grabbing and expanding has already been done by this point of the game, you may not have the necessary resources to build your uu in your borders. Meaning you'll have to trade or risk ruining your reputation by invading to try and get it from someone who does.

	17-10-2001 04:17									#4
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You bring up good points about the UUs. True that the civs that have 'late coming' UUs may be at a disadvantage in the early game, which in previous CIV games is usually the most critical phase. But if the 'late bloomers' are able to keep pace with their more ancient peers throughout the game, once they get their UUs, they will overtake any competition.

But it is hard to say exactly how this will all play out until we get the game.

	17-10-2001 04:18									#5
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The colour of the UU depends on what civilisation they belong to. From what I can tell, the user is always blue and all his units are blue.

	17-10-2001 04:30									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison The colour of the UU depends on what civilisation they belong to. From what I can tell, the user is always blue and all his units are blue.

This makes sense I guess but why is the Chinese Rider and Russian Cossack red? Could be that the player can pick what colour he is? Or these are pics belonging to another civ? Or different colours represent different ages?

I hope your right and it is just the colour of your own civ rather than for different ages, be cool if the player could pick his own colour too.

	17-10-2001 04:49									#7
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I have to agree with Provost Harrison. IMO, the color of the UU relates to the color of civilization which has it and is not related to the technology age.

	17-10-2001 05:55									#8
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War Elephant and Rider should be in the same age since they are based on the same unit.

	17-10-2001 06:04									#9
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I don't think the player is always blue; from what I've seen, the different civs all have a set color.

	17-10-2001 08:42									#10
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quote: Originally posted by TechWins This is the contrary of what many people think, including me. The two of them will have the best unit's from the modern age till the end of the game. Where as lets say the Zulus will only have the best unit for a limited time.

Contrary to what others have asserted (I'm not just picking on you, Techwin!), I believe that F15s and Panzers will be rendered obsolete prior to the end of the game. F15s will no longer be available with the development of Stealth Fighters, and Panzers will no longer be available with the development of Modern Armor.

Sure they might still be around, but they will no longer be available for production and they will be inferior to more modern units. Of course, that's just my opinion of how things will shake out, but it makes sense in light of everything I've seen.

	17-10-2001 08:47									#11
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay37 I don't think the player is always blue; from what I've seen, the different civs all have a set color.

What color you are depends on what civ you pick, and/if you have messed with the colors in the editor. The reason most (all?) of the units shown in the Civ of the Week have blue highlights is because this is the color that was used when the models were originally made. Anywhere you see swatches of blue, feel free to imagine lime green, black, orange, or even pastel pink if you prefer.

Dan

	17-10-2001 08:53									#12
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Thanks for the clarification Dan!

	17-10-2001 16:33									#13
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Cool custom colours

	17-10-2001 16:50									#14
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There's a counter arguement that I will put forward: Offensive UU's available before you are likely to have (m)any armies are less useful than those that come later. The people to get early armies with the best attack rating and hitpoints are likely to be the only ones successfully siezing towns.

Possible Tactics:
Fast early UU = sieze as much territory as possible for later colonisation
Defensive early UU = hold what you've got
Offensive early UU = try to be the first to get a leader and academy
Renaissance UU = armies galore to grab chunks off bigger empires now their UU is out of date
England = try and do something with your naval advantage. Can you threaten blockades?
Late UU = If you're still alive and in the running, its time to maximise your potential by persuading allies to attack the lead Civ then grab it all to become the leader yourself!

P.S. Glad we can customise those colours. It will please the colourblind as well as those of us who object to pink knights