17-10-2001 20:10									#1
	do you play SMAC/SMAX more since 9/11/01? Put an end to popups!

i hope this question is appropriate, and if not, hopefully it gets pulled and i won't get in trouble.

since the events on and following 9/11, i've REALLY gotten a lot more into SMAX. i like to experiment with different ways of playing, such as "kill the taliban" (fight the believers), "can't we all just get along" (try to prevent ALL wars), etc....

do you play more or less now? why? or is there no difference?

i sincerely hope no one is offended by this topic; i'm just curious.

	17-10-2001 21:17									#2
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I'm playing a lot more.

	17-10-2001 22:19									#3
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A very philosofistic question, methinks.
It is quite possible that people, including I, spend more times on games and other entertaiment like reading and TV to "forget" the thing, and put it aside. I haven't played more SMACX, but more other games.

	17-10-2001 23:32									#4
	Re: do you play SMAC/SMAX more since 9/11/01? Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Bella Hella since the events on and following 9/11, i've REALLY gotten a lot more into SMAX. i like to experiment with different ways of playing, such as "kill the taliban" (fight the believers), "can't we all just get along" (try to prevent ALL wars), etc....

Wow....ways to bring a message board to a crashing halt anyone?

If this doesn't cause controversy then bin Laden did it all for nothing...

	18-10-2001 00:41									#5
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quote: Wow....ways to bring a message board to a crashing halt anyone? If this doesn't cause controversy then bin Laden did it all for nothing...

i'm not really sure what you mean by that...

i'm just asking this because of the very nature of the game: make your empire, interact with other empires, maybe war with other empires. just wondering if anyone, like me, is more interested in this type of game as the result of recent events.

sorry if you feel this isn't a valid point. i'm not trying to start a fight.

	18-10-2001 03:51									#6
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Religious folk get a little touchy when you equate other Gods to their own.

- Scipio

	18-10-2001 05:35									#7
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Well I think it does provide a form of escapism from real life for many of us - and in a way that somehow the tawdry TV entertainment and sports events can't. It's hard to get tuned into the baseball playoffs watching mutlimillionaire athletes play a totally meaningless game while thousands are grieving in NYC and millions are starving in Afghanistan. Or get excited about a new hockey season when the airwaves are full of yet another anthrax scare.

And while I'm impressed my Michael Jordan's gesture in donating all of his this year's salary to help dispossessed New Yorkers, I'd be even more impressed if all the professional athletes in North America donated just ten percent of their $3 billion salaries to help feed Afghanistan's starving population.

Googlie (stepping down from his pulpit)

	18-10-2001 05:37									#8
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ps: and who'd want to be Tau Ceti these days - in the PBEMs he's in his faction is now routinely called the Tau-liban

G.

	18-10-2001 11:06									#9
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I'm playing more also, but it has to do with my available free time as much as anything. (At least I think that's why!)

	18-10-2001 12:54									#10
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I'm playing less now, but it's nothing to do with 11/9/01 - I just don't have as much time now I'm at college as well as working.

	18-10-2001 13:18									#11
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About the same, though I have been having a steady decline in my SMAC diet because of CivIII's upcoming release.

	18-10-2001 15:34									#12
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I'm playing Alpha Centauri about the same amount (which is still a lot) as before the terrorist attacks. I've also returned to SimCity 3000 again, and I put the Twin Towers in my city as a tribute to all who lost their lives, and as a prayer that my beloved Manhattan will rise again stronger than before. It may not make the evening news, but it means something to me.

	18-10-2001 19:25									#13
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Mr P:

I think that's really neat.

G.

	19-10-2001 02:05									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie ps: and who'd want to be Tau Ceti these days - in the PBEMs he's in his faction is now routinely called the Tau-liban G.

That is very childish and idiotic. He is a nice guy - he helped me out to learn the rules of PBEM.

	19-10-2001 02:31									#15
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What struck me in the aftermath of Sept 11 was how the anti US nations sounded so very much like leaders of Civ 2 when faced with a strong opponent...using language like imperialist aggression!!

	19-10-2001 02:39									#16
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quote: Originally posted by kassiopeia That is very childish and idiotic. He is a nice guy - he helped me out to learn the rules of PBEM.

Thanks, kassiopeia, but I am not offended. It is only in one game, I know the people involved well, and it is all in good sport. As I am doing quite a lot of suicide air attacks in that particular game, it is even somewhat appropriate.

	19-10-2001 02:50									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Tau Ceti Thanks, kassiopeia, but I am not offended. It is only in one game, I know the people involved well, and it is all in good sport. As I am doing quite a lot of suicide air attacks in that particular game, it is even somewhat appropriate.

Okay. I thought it was some rat mouth fooling around.
Hmm, those needlejets have way too little fuel do they?

	19-10-2001 08:17									#18
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I am playing SMAX more too these days, but not so much due to the Sept 11 catastrophe - more due to my reading of Michael Ely's Centauri Dawn book. It is an okay book but it did revive my interest in the game.

	19-10-2001 08:20									#19
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quote: What struck me in the aftermath of Sept 11 was how the anti US nations sounded so very much like leaders of Civ 2 when faced with a strong opponent...using language like imperialist aggression!!

Yeah, so? We are an aggressive imperialist state. Our power doesn't emmanate from some magical 'team-spirit'; We're fat, diabetic, lazy bastages whose power rests squarely on the backs of those we exploit, which, incidentally, we learned from ye Brits Consul...

-The Patriot.

	19-10-2001 10:57									#20
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Kass:

I'm in that game and on the receiving end of the suicide missions - but they are choppers, not noodles. they reach the (almost) end of their range then take out six of my energy park crawlers each. Lost about 30 that way, so it's a great rtisk/reward equation for Tau.

(Course like an idiot, I've been playing smac/x for 2 years now and totally forgot the old Civ ability of ground troops to attack choppers - I'd equated them with needlejets for 2 years - and I could have had no-risk morale upgrades of I'd sent my 1-2-1 sentries out of the base to attack his 90% weakened choppers. But I didn't, they crashed and I saw my tech research rate drop from every turn to every six turns. So he's not so daft after all)



rat mouth Googlie

	20-10-2001 01:53									#21
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This is new to me - you mean that choppers destroy the improvement in the tile they are in when they crash?