18-10-2001 02:32									#1
	SinglePlayer - MultiPlayer or in between ? Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

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Hi , my previous poll gave this interesting result when asking :

Do You buy CIV3 in expectance of a MultiPlayer-patch ?

Well , 42.86% would buy it with more or less expectancy
just as 42.86% didn't care about MultiPlayer-games (!) and
only a 14.29% would buy it anyway .... [details at bottom]
Total: 35 votes 100%
35 Votes is an extremely narrow representation of Apolyton
and merely gives you a hint at tendencies here ! That's why
I took the initiative to the poll above ... I was curious !!!


----------------[details of previous poll]-----------------------
Do You buy CIV3 in expectance of a MultiPlayer-patch ?

Yes definitely ! They don't want to disappoint the whole world !
11 31.43%
I buy it with patience . I'm sure they will release a MP-patch
but it will take very long time !
4 11.43%
I guess it's OK with me , if they don't .
I can always play other multiplayer-games !
5 14.29%
I like the game and I don't care about multiplayer-game-experience .
I'm the greatest anyway !
15 42.86%

	18-10-2001 03:20									#2
	Got spare money?

Do you mean for Civ or for games in general? For example, I played Age of Kings almost MP exclusively, but it's possible I may never play a game of Civ3 MP at all.

	18-10-2001 03:25									#3
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I was gonna create a poll like this earlier, but I thought it might be a bad idea with the recent tensions. Anyway, I'm all for SP but if someone made me play MP... I would...

	18-10-2001 03:29									#4
	SORRY ! Increase Your PM Length

I should have pointed out that it was about TurnBasedStrategy (TBS)
CIV-games and that is for me including the disputed CTP1 & 2 and the
SMAC-ers ! AOK is also Civilizations , but RealTimeStrategy (RTS) .

I have made a typographical mistake in the poll ; I should have written :

100% MULTI instead of !00% MULTI .............

	18-10-2001 08:31									#5
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I voted 40% S, 60% M.

The reason is because lately I have been really enjoying SMAC play-by-email much more than just single player. Single player does have its advantages in that you can just play anytime, and for as long as you want. But MP has people for opponents, which can be a lot of fun, but these games tends to move a LOT slower. The other thing about the MP games is the diplomacy and, if you are so inclined, the RolePlaying that we do sometimes.

But I still enjoy both.

	18-10-2001 10:07									#6
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CIV genre by design is not a good fit for MP IMO. At least CIVII MP is not ( On-line MP is just too time consuming, hotseat and PBEM lack good diplomat. How is SMAC? AT least it ships with MP. Is it better than CIV2 MP?

	18-10-2001 10:10									#7
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Well, what I really want to say is people here play more SP only because CIV2 MP as implemeted is not good enough.

	18-10-2001 10:10									#8
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If Firaxis makes an online-world sort of thing, that would be truly amazing...

	18-10-2001 10:16									#9
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 If Firaxis makes an online-world sort of thing, that would be truly amazing...

I think it would be too. But I am being carefully skeptical about Firaxogrames devoting that much development and resources (servers) into such a thing. I for one am not anticipating any great revolution for CIV MP, but hopefully some new things and a very clean MP system.

	18-10-2001 10:33									#10
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Me either...it's just hard to imagine what else they could be hyping. ???

	18-10-2001 10:39									#11
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60% Single player / 40% Multiplayer : I perfect things at Single Player and have a fun time at MP.

I really hope Firaxis' next update after the editor is about multiplayer.

	18-10-2001 15:38									#12
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i hope to play civ3 mp (some time)
but when i play civ2 it is always sp

	18-10-2001 15:52									#13
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90 SP, 10MP,

Every once and a while I play TB MP. But really, if I want to play MP, I put in Homeworld and see who's online. I simply don't have the time or the inclination to play a game that last 10hrs+ in MP.

I know some people really want to make a big deal out of no MP. But I couldn't care less.

	18-10-2001 16:54									#14
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An online world thingie would be very interesting... but for now, I'm 100% sp...

	18-10-2001 19:27									#15
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I've already pre-ordered Civ 3, and i've played a few times in MP.

I really hope that the MP patch for Civ 3 cames out very short after Civ 3 because i'm a maniac for MP Civ games!!!

Everybody with me: WE WANT CIV 3 AS SOON AS CIV 3 CAMES OUT!!!!!!

(i'm getting crazy very quickly about this)

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	18-10-2001 19:46									#16
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I love multiplayer games, especially civ, but it's so much trouble to set it up, find someone to play with etc., and besides I don't have a decent Internet connection (yet). In fact, despite CTP was generally lousy, I had my best gaming experience ever playing multiplayer CTP over the Internet.. I actually laughed and laughed... all the plots and deals and broken promises.. the caht feature was of course essential. So if CTP can be good, just imagine how good CIV will be! Multiplayer is the ultimate thing, but it takes very long (you must prepare a stock of food and keep beside your computer) and it's difficult to find several people that can set aside 20 hours at a time. And in CTP I found that it was very difficult balancing the game rules in order not to ruin the game with too much waiting, i.e. setting time limits per turn, size and things like that. Hotseat could be an option if you just get a mate over to play a game.


Fred

	18-10-2001 21:08									#17
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I can't give an objective vote because it will depend greatly on how good the AI is. If its appalling then the game will be returned to the shop fro a refund before I ever try MP. If its terrific then I won't need to MP much. If its good enough to keep the game but bad enough to be uninspiring then I could be 90% multiplay.

	18-10-2001 21:18									#18
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80% MP 20% sp

sp is ok, but it gets boring after a while. i have more fun at MP despite the cons (turn length and difficulty at setting up continue times)

	18-10-2001 22:00									#19
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I chose 100% SP. If the AI is good, I don't want much MP. It's time consuming, and not that good. I might have been 90% SP, though, but I liked 100% more. If only the AI is good.

	19-10-2001 08:49									#20
	PLEASE ... Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

... KEEP ON VOTING
AND MAKE A LITTLE REPLY FROM TIME TO TIME
TO KEEP THIS POLL UP IN THE "VISIBLE" FRONT

That is of course only if you are curious too !

Thanx for responding

	19-10-2001 11:40									#21
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Wow! I am still the only person who voted 40%-60% S-M.

I am very special

	19-10-2001 12:58									#22
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80-20% S-M for me. And that's probably biased towards MP because I'm hoping I'll enjoy it more than I currently do.

	19-10-2001 23:23									#23
	THIS POLL IS FOR ALL CURIOUS AND CIVILIZED PEOPLE ... Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

HEY ; KEEP ON VOTING AND
(SOMETIMES) REPLYING !!!

THANX AGAIN

	21-10-2001 03:24									#24
	VOTE , VOTE , VOTE and reply - please ... Put an end to popups!

Well , since there are 12025 members at Apolyton
I only need 11942 more votes ... Thanx in advance !

	21-10-2001 06:34									#25
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20% S + 80% M

	21-10-2001 09:19									#26
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I think with the advent of faster computers and much faster and more stable internet connections a MP option in any game is essential for success. People in genral who don't like MP games either have slow computers,56K connections or a lack of skill in the game. To learn an AI pre-determined play sequence is about as challenging as using a calculater to do math in multiples of 100. Of course if your the kind of person that enjoys car racing alone,then MP is not for you
100% MP and proud of it!

	21-10-2001 09:35									#27
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i was striclty an sper in civ2, but i hope to become an mper in the civ3 community

	21-10-2001 09:56									#28
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i would ahve said 99% MP

	21-10-2001 18:53									#29
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90%-10% Sp-Mp.

I've never played a MP game. Didn't wanna pay for Civ2 MGE, just to get MP. But, OTOH, I will try MP for Civ3 when it comes out (if it doesn't cost to much ).

	21-10-2001 19:29									#30
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 Me either...it's just hard to imagine what else they could be hyping. ???

I voted "80% S + 20% M : Actually MP is interesting , but lacks certain refinements !" because I'd love to play multiplayer...but I can't play direct-connect (LAN / Internet) games due to time considerations, and I simply can't face the idea of another two-year-long PBEM.

Yin, I can imagine something...I'll be shocked and amazed if it happens, but it would make me so happy -- asynchronous server-based simultaneous turns. See http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum28/HTML/000343.html#5
for details.