18-10-2001 10:52									#1
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Well they finished Civ 3, so are they working on the multiplayer components, or having a break, or maybee making the first Civ 3 patch. What do you think?

	18-10-2001 11:03									#2
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Sid Golf
CivIII MP (a little)
Drinking high priced teas and coffees
Driving all sorts of 2002 models of automobiles
Eating sandwiches

And probably playing a fair amount of CivIII, I would suppose.

	18-10-2001 11:04									#3
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Calculating the Q4 figures.

	18-10-2001 11:13									#4
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 Calculating the Q4 figures.

Followed by speculating about multiplayer, followed by calculating Q2 figures for next year.

	18-10-2001 11:15									#5
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quote: or maybee making the first Civ 3 patch.

Hopefully NOT this.

Not saying a patch won't be necessary, but they SHOULD have already solved all the bugs they know about. Patches will possibly have to be made when some wierd compatability issues come up, or something like that. . but if there are bugs they KNOW about, that they could start writing a patch for already. . shame on firaxis.

But, i don't think that's the case. .

	18-10-2001 11:18									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Alex 14 or maybee making the first Civ 3 patch

the first smac patch(mainly adding pbem, patches are not just to fix things ) came out 3 days after the release

	18-10-2001 11:23									#7
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good point. think we'll have MP (even PBEM mp) 3 day's after release? ya right. but i suppose other things like that are possible. .

btw, mark, what did you ever do with that chat transcript i sent to you? . . decided not to put it up? and i sent you the IRC script you asked for too, is that what you needed?

	18-10-2001 11:56									#8
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quote: Originally posted by connorkimbro quote: or maybee making the first Civ 3 patch. Hopefully NOT this. Not saying a patch won't be necessary, but they SHOULD have already solved all the bugs they know about. Patches will possibly have to be made when some wierd compatability issues come up, or something like that. . but if there are bugs they KNOW about, that they could start writing a patch for already. . shame on firaxis. But, i don't think that's the case. .

The Civ 3 Deadline seemed to force Firaxis to rush the project and finish it as soon as possible, so they proberly are making a patch for some last minute changes.

The CTP2 patch was released soon after the game, and we never heard from Activision since then.

	18-10-2001 18:03									#9
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quote: The Civ 3 Deadline seemed to force Firaxis to rush the project and finish it as soon as possible

I disagree. I didn't feel that it was rushed at all. I'm confident that if firaxis needed more time, they would have delayed the game.

	18-10-2001 18:37									#10
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The core of the Civ 3 team are going to be focussed on the expansion pack/patch/MP tool for some time. Some will undoubtedly move to other projects sooner rather than later. SimGolf is taking resources and Sid is already hinting he has other ideas.

	18-10-2001 19:17									#11
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quote: SimGolf is taking resources and Sid is already hinting he has other ideas.

Yeah a dress-me-up-sid virtual dress up game. Apolyton is covering it too probably

	18-10-2001 19:24									#12
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quote: Originally posted by connorkimbro quote: The Civ 3 Deadline seemed to force Firaxis to rush the project and finish it as soon as possible I disagree. I didn't feel that it was rushed at all. I'm confident that if firaxis needed more time, they would have delayed the game.

Umm, no. Why do you think MP was left out? Because they HAD to make the publish date regardless. Firaxis isn't BLizzard (thank god) so they can't take three years to develop a game that still publishes with sub-standard graphics and shoddy game balance.

	18-10-2001 19:42									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Ozymandous Umm, no. Why do you think MP was left out? Because they HAD to make the publish date regardless.

People should remember that this is probably more a result of their dealing with Infogrames than any decision taken solely on the part of Firaxis. Usually a good rule-of-thumb is "blame the publisher, not the developer" when it comes to a game shipping with some perceived lack of functionality.

As for Firaxis, they are probably focusing most of their efforts on SM Sim Golf to meet that early 2002 release date. A much reduced Civ3 team will probably continue working on MP and bugs/fixes as need occurs.

	18-10-2001 19:53									#14
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They are making Yin's civilization IV....

	18-10-2001 19:54									#15
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Probably finsihing off MP and SimGolf - who knows maybe they're building great big permanent on-line worlds for us to conquer that allow you to come back and play MP an hour or so at a time and still play the whole game upto 2020 (or whenever it is)

Offtopic but - is SimGolf MP???

	18-10-2001 20:01									#16
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I would assume that they have MP to finish up and get that all ready for this spring or whenever. And of course Sim Golf for this spring, although I would have to believe they took at least a few days off after Civ shipped. I know once midterms are done this week I will be taking some time off even if I have stuff starting again next week. So that is only natural.

quote: Originally posted by Blacksurf Offtopic but - is SimGolf MP???

I don't think so. But in anticipation of so then why aren't we mad about this blah blah blah, first I am not that excited about SimGolf at least not as much as Civ III and it is a totally different game. Civ is perfect for MP while SimGolf is a totally SP type sim game.

	18-10-2001 20:08									#17
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maybe they're working on Colonisation sequel ....

	18-10-2001 20:23									#18
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I'd say working out how much money there going to make of Civ3, then ther'll start working out how much they can get from MOD packs and multiplayer addons latter on

	18-10-2001 20:33									#19
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I have to concur with your analysis Deathwalker!

	19-10-2001 00:08									#20
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Some of them are spemding some of their time hovering round our forums answering sme of our questions.

Hmmmmmm

Too many somes