18-10-2001 21:45									#1
	Wanted: Dedicated Civ Mentor Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

My name is Robert, also known variously as RawB_Spartan, Spartan_RawB, and Spartan in Gameleague and Civ fanatics ladders. Over the past years, I've dedicated much of my time and effort into this game, often at great personal costs.

I am a civ fanatic. I love the game, wish to learn more about it, and want to become an astute player.

Over the past year, A-team has coached me somewhat, dropping me hints here and guiding me in the right direction. But these days, we hardly come across each other online, and thus, I am forced to find a new mentor.

As for potential: I rose to rank #4 in Gameleague (though much of my victories came against new players) and am currently ranked #10 in Civ fanatics (and quickly rising).

If you are an *honorable* player who has an in depth knowledge of the game and an astute standing here in Civ community, please contact me. My ICQ is 110939971 and email is robbie_farmboy@hotmail.com

My particular areas of interest is the use of Republic - early and midgame use of the government. I am relatively proficient in early expansion and city building strategies.

	19-10-2001 05:45									#3
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i second AH's comment about himself

	19-10-2001 18:21									#4
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AH taught me and thats why I SUCK

	19-10-2001 20:34									#5
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

War4 and Berz beat me all the time, so I would be useless

RAH

	20-10-2001 03:45									#6
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I beat Eyes of Night but my schedule is full !!!!!

	20-10-2001 18:31									#7
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How much is the pay?

	20-10-2001 23:10									#8
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i can't even beat rah, so i guess i'd be worse than useless

	21-10-2001 12:26									#9
	Re: Wanted: Dedicated Civ Mentor Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote: Originally posted by Spartan_RawB My name is Robert, also known variously as RawB_Spartan, Spartan_RawB, and Spartan in Gameleague and Civ fanatics ladders. Over the past years, I've dedicated much of my time and effort into this game, often at great personal costs. I am a civ fanatic. I love the game, wish to learn more about it, and want to become an astute player.

Robert, looks like we are in the same boat. I'm looking for someone as well, being new to Civ II. Found an old copy at Walmart, picked it up.

	21-10-2001 13:27									#10
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Concerning Carnide's question: How much is the pay?

The pay is non-monetary: My unequivocable loyalty to my mentor and any contribution I can make to the mentor's game (I pick things up quick).

And also, bragging rights. If I go on to become the greatest Civ player who ever lived, my mentor will be able to thump his chest and say, "That's m' boy!"

	22-10-2001 10:41									#11
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If you're such a fast learner why do you need a mentor? For that matter, what makes you think there is anybody out there who can teach you everything there is to know? And even if there were that someone, you'd only be as good as what they tell you and nothing more. You might become a good player, but never the best. If you want to be the best, you have to come up with your own ideas and be the forerunner of new strategies.

	22-10-2001 19:05									#12
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Don't you think, though, that learning about the prevailing and known strategies will accelerate the learning curve? Simply put, I see little point in re-inventing the wheel.

Also, there are some in-game secrets that are best taught, and not likely to be easily discovered. To list some:

* Tracking down enemy civs by using city screen
* Exploring by using continent number information
* Oedo years
* Diplo-invisibility
* Trade disruption

	22-10-2001 19:09									#13
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have you been to the civ 2 strategy section of these forums, go look at the Great Library thread....

	23-10-2001 00:55									#14
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You can win this game easily without using the little tricks. In the end it all comes down to skill. All there is to know about this game is contained in 1 save file of one of my games. The real skill lies in being able to recreate what a player does. How do you think I learned what I did? I was a rookie too at one point.

	23-10-2001 01:21									#15
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Why bother?

Just wait for Civ3 to come out and then you can start mastering that at the same time as the rest of us. I doubt many people will be playing civ2 by this time next year, so just keep on doing what you're doing you seem pretty good already, and then work on mastering the next game.

	23-10-2001 09:10									#16
	The Capo... Tired of ads?

You should learn the ways of Civ from the Capo, he is considered one of the most fair and kindhearted individuals out there. He is respectful to his fellow players and rarely causes any issues during games.

Just ask Nap Bonaparte, Curumbor Endelil, Ming and the entire HOTW2 crew about it!

	23-10-2001 09:38									#17
	Snatch the pebble from my hand Tired of ads?

Actually I've been looking for a woman who will teach me about sex in return for civ tips.

I'm still looking

Maybe I should start a thread about that

	23-10-2001 15:43									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Actually I've been looking for a woman who will teach me about sex in return for civ tips. I'm still looking Maybe I should start a thread about that

now even i could spam a thread better than that AH .. i might need to change my sig

	23-10-2001 21:29									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin now even i could spam a thread better than that AH .. i might need to change my sig

You might.

I think you both need to go to some spammers help session. SA Spammers Anonymous or something.

"Hi my name is Rasputin and i'm an emporer..."

	23-10-2001 23:34									#20
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Remember ... Emporer is but a truck stop on the highway of spam to deity.....


Now back to the topic ....

the best way to learn civ is to play it, read the GREAT LIBRARY thread , Play more, discuss in civ 2 strategy any shortcomings and you will receive advice..

and then you need to decide the tpye of game that you prefer,

SP, 2x or 1x , MP , Diplo , Duels ..... etc

	24-10-2001 18:09									#21
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I'll take one of your advice - Rasputin - to play more. I issue you a challenge. ;-) You can contact me through ICQ and I'm online most of the time.

Best regards

	24-10-2001 18:49									#22
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Come on Raz take up the challenge.

	25-10-2001 04:10									#23
	Re: Re: Wanted: Dedicated Civ Mentor Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by NorthSwordsman Robert, looks like we are in the same boat. I'm looking for someone as well, being new to Civ II. Found an old copy at Walmart, picked it up.

Nice to see you here. I am usually playing over weekends and if you looking for a good game of Civ2, you're in the right place.
Hope to catch you around 7-8 pm EST some friday or saturday.

	02-11-2001 19:06									#24
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In our current game, your self admitted lack of trade routes is the difference between you having already won and the game being close as it is.
Always remember that each individual civ2 game is, in and by itself meaningless. Just because you win does not mean that you are better then the other player. What makes you better is if you took the other players starting position and were able to win both ways then you are a better player..
Wait to you see where I started ...50 squares of orginal cont..2 huts (archer,horse) 2 whales which were far away from my capital and could not bring into play till 12 th turn of the game!
You have much to learn on the power of trade routes and how to expertly use them. This game can well serve as a model for you to learn from.
If you win, which you are ahead 33 citys to 22 (that number will be reduced as I build 5 citys in next 2 turns and retake the two you took from me) dont make the mistake of just putting it in the win collumn and moving on. You can learn more from a win sometimes then from a lose.

	04-11-2001 14:08									#25
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It was finally good to get a game going with my mentor again! It's been a while since we played together. Yes, I must say that you did an admirable job fighting out of a tough situation - and because of that fighting spirit the game is as close as it is.

I do have a game plan in that game, and it should be fun to play it out!

	04-11-2001 14:37									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Spartan_RawB I'll take one of your advice - Rasputin - to play more. I issue you a challenge. ;-) You can contact me through ICQ and I'm online most of the time. Best regards

Fortunately for me I dont play Duels, too boring !!! I only ever play MP ....

	23-11-2001 12:45									#27
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you should duel sometimes.....alot of mp games end up being duels anyways.....unless of course everyone is screwed and then its just a crawl

	25-11-2001 14:23									#28
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The human iteraction and backstabbing is what i like, when it gets down to jsut 2 you know the othe rhates you !!!, so i would simply let the other win if a MP got down to 2 .....

	25-11-2001 20:15									#29
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Anyone here fancy a duel sometime? My fave setting is 2x2x but I can play 2x1x as well now I've only ever really played zone players I'd like to see how good some of you Apolyton players are... my ICQ is 65391904

	25-11-2001 22:54									#30
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no one probably has time to play much as they deeply involved in civ 3 !!! damn sellouts !!!!!!