19-10-2001 13:26									#1
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Since MarkG refuses to answer my question,
and even refuses to give a decent answer but just decides to close down a thread that features a normal, polite asked question I wonder.

What do you think about the way admins are allowed to behave ?
Again, this is another polite poll just to check if I'm that stupid to think that admins must behave decent and handle their guests as if they are human, or that admins have a wildcard to act like.....

Thus, what rights does an admin have ?

	19-10-2001 13:29									#2
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The answer to your question is that it'd probably be too intense on the server to display more than 14 users or whatever.

BTW, it's not polite to threadstalk people.

	19-10-2001 13:37									#3
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how polite is it to have a signature with text in red color?

	19-10-2001 13:41									#4
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you prefer green ?
I tell you, the second you just answer my simple question it will be gone completely !

But I wonder if you can overpower your own ego to answer it.

	19-10-2001 13:53									#5
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Well, since Markos is one of the owners of Apolyton, I think you should be thankful you haven't been banned for questioning the admins' authority.

I am thankful that MarkG actually is fair with his administrative actions, and will actually keep a thread like this open so as to keep 'free speech' alive here at Apolyton.

	19-10-2001 13:59									#6
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quote: I am thankful that MarkG actually is fair with his administrative actions

Ming isn't. He took 100 posts from me merely for a single piece of spam.

	19-10-2001 14:10									#7
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quote: Well, since Markos is one of the owners of Apolyton, I think you should be thankful you haven't been banned for questioning the admins' authority

when did I question his authority ?
I can tell you, I don't.

	19-10-2001 18:54									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Infatuation Ming isn't. He took 100 posts from me merely for a single piece of spam.

Sure, he did Stewie. It had absolutely nothing to do with your little squeak by the censor routine.

	19-10-2001 19:29									#9
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I think they are more tolerant than I am.

I kid Mark all the time, but he never gets mad, and Ming and Mike talk to you if there is a problem.

I think it's the way questions are asked that gets them ignored or answered.

When I have a question, I just ask it, and it seems to get answered.

	19-10-2001 20:01									#10
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quote: I think it's the way questions are asked that gets them ignored or answered

my question was (is):

quote: When I click on the 'Currently Active Users' link on the forum main page I get a list containing only the first 14 registered visitors in alphabetical order................ how can I see the rest of them ?

should I have asked:
Dear Markos,

thank you so much for providing us with this fine site !
Thanks for all the good work you're doing, I'm so happy with you !

Would you please be so kind to answer my little puny unworthy question ? But please don't waste your oh so valuable time ont it !

The question is related to the new beautifull feature on your great forums ! It's the feature were you can see what the current active users are doing ! Everytime I click on the link I become so happy, but then when I enter the page, I can only see 14 active users, sorted by alphabet. I'm sure it's my fault, and I'm sure that it's my stupidity that makes that your infallable and great code does not work !

Oh thy holy Markos, what do I have to do to see all those other active users ? Or am I not allowed to see it ? Please don't punish me if I ask the wrong question.
Thank you so much for taking time to read my unworthy question !
And thank you so much in advance to answer it !

thanks again !
we love your Markos !
Can't stop saying thanks !
there I go again: thanks

CyberShy

Ps. THANKS THANKS oh oh oh thank you so much
PPs. can't really quit it, oh thank you again
PPPs. somebody stop me..... tha.......argh *bonk* aaaaaaa thank....*uck* oh holy mark.......*shop* uugaliagjlas burp

	19-10-2001 21:16									#11
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Probably.


If you had, you never know, your signature might not be green.

RAH

Of course you know, it's a matter of pride now.

	19-10-2001 21:31									#12
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quote: Of course you know, it's a matter of pride now

I've been told that from the moon you can see only 2 things build by humans ! The great wall and Markos' ego

	19-10-2001 22:18									#13
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Speaking of admin's behavior, one can't deny the high entertainment value of threads like this. Still open

	19-10-2001 23:07									#14
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It seems like few posters here have good grace and form when addressing requests to administration, and their flattery skills are woefully deficient. Let me show you an example from another forum of an effective style in which to couch a request to Administration:

"O great and magnificent Thuderfall, puissant Grandmaster of CivFanatics. We have heard tale of upcoming further benefits, which you, in your unbounded munificence, have deigned to grant us, your humble followers. We have heard that you have most generously decided to grant to your unworthy flock, further user friendly attributes of this, your glorious oracle, the CivFantics Forums, That when we have entered one of our lowly but sincere post offerings to your glory, that we shall be returned to the bottom of the thread, and that when we click upon the name of the devotee who made the last reply on the topics page, we shall be instantly and rapturously transported to the bottom of thread, for we, your servants, all know, that the bottom is our proper place, when in your august presence."

Then Bada Boom, Bada Bing! we got the two new features.

	19-10-2001 23:40									#15
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Admin's can behave how they like.

If someone allows you into their home do you complain about how they refused to answer your question on who made that painting hanging over the mantlepiece?

Remember its the Admins who own the site, and so they have complete authority and need answer to no-one!

	20-10-2001 00:39									#16
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Didn't the thread get locked because it fell foul of the "boring and pointless moaning" rule?

	20-10-2001 01:18									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Infatuation Ming isn't. He took 100 posts from me merely for a single piece of spam.

I would have banned you for three days and hit you with 10%, feel better now?

	20-10-2001 01:22									#18
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He got three days just a few minutes later by proving how cool he was by getting around the censors...

Hmmmm... taking him down another 10% does sound like fun

	20-10-2001 01:31									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch Admin's can behave how they like. If someone allows you into their home do you complain about how they refused to answer your question on who made that painting hanging over the mantlepiece? Remember its the Admins who own the site, and so they have complete authority and need answer to no-one!

That is true, but in a dangerous way. If you have a restaurant, it's yours, right? You can have the food and service as good or bad as you please. People vote with their feet and if you want your restaurant to flourish, you better hbave good food and service. Same goes for a website and a forum. If nobody posts anything, the forum is dead. If no one visits Apolyton, Markos might as well take it offline.

I have had no problems here. Markos and other mods have answered my questions well. They have been few and generally simple, but I am happy with their responses. Therefore I don't understand why CyberShy's question has not been answered, if it is as simple and innocent as stated above. I have not followed the thread, so I am judging from this one.

The Internet is a funny place. It's mostly free of charge, and it's world wide. There are more choices than any one person can make use of in a lifetime. If I had a website as popular as Apolyton, I would feel very grateful. I know it's hard work, but there is more to it than that. Apolyton is a community. As long as that community is a happy one, it will continue to thrive. If unhappiness and rivalry sets in, Apolyton is in trouble.

An Administrator needs to be a lot of things, but above all, he needs to be a great diplomat.

	20-10-2001 01:41									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG how polite is it to have a signature with text in red color?

Be happy that he doesn’t use a bigger size.
(And that I don’t use the same annoying way to get attention to the questions I have).

You are doing a great job.

I know you are humans with a real life (as I don't seem to have ) so I don't except immediate actions from your side.

	20-10-2001 02:24									#21
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Well, a certain admin ignores tons of spam, but gives pcr for someone only for one post. Why? Because he's the admin.

	20-10-2001 02:31									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Well, a certain admin ignores tons of spam, but gives pcr for someone only for one post. Why? Because he's the admin.

Have you thought of that it might have been many single posts, that all together was enough spam to give the certain person pcr, or that the person asked other people to spam too?

	20-10-2001 03:05									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba I am thankful that MarkG actually is fair with his administrative actions, and will actually keep a thread like this open so as to keep 'free speech' alive here at Apolyton.

I bet you this thread dies soon.

	20-10-2001 03:07									#24
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy I've been told that from the moon you can see only 2 things build by humans ! The great wall and Markos' ego

In fact you can't see the wall as its too thin. Which leaves.... not one singe manmade object can be seen from space.

Another urban myth bites the dust.

	20-10-2001 03:12									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Well, a certain admin ignores tons of spam, but gives pcr for someone only for one post. Why? Because he's the admin.

said the notorious spammer with a tin of spam as his avatar. No need to ask which side you are on Eli do we.

	20-10-2001 03:56									#26
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i cant beleive the number of people who serioulsy think that FREEDOM of speech is relevant on a private website, whilst i dotn always agree with Mark on his attitude or actions , I do agree with him that he has the right to do whatever he damn pleases as he does own the place (well half own) we are here by privaledge guys, not a right.. So ask questions sure, but you just have to accept it when they decide to take action.....

So speaks a Spanked Spammer !!!!

	20-10-2001 15:33									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Didn't the thread get locked because it fell foul of the "boring and pointless moaning" rule?

	20-10-2001 16:27									#28
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Some you are the biggest spoiled brat crybabies I have ever seen in my life! Do you all act that way at home?

"Damn you Mom!!! I can't believe you wouldn't buy me a new $500 spoiler for the car that you already pay for the gas on and let me drive for free anyway! What a jerk! Oppressor!!!"

When you dumbasses pour hundreds of thousands of hours into the site, then MAYBE you can complain.

Admins can do whatever the hell they want.

CASE CLOSED

	20-10-2001 17:12									#29
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quote: Originally posted by derek "Damn you Mom!!! I can't believe you wouldn't buy me a new $500 spoiler for the car that you already pay for the gas on and let me drive for free anyway! What a jerk! Oppressor!!!"

I agree.

"Kevins" the lot of the them.

	20-10-2001 18:10									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Didn't the thread get locked because it fell foul of the "boring and pointless moaning" rule?

Are OT threads exempt from that rule?