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Alfonsus72
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To make the game historically accurated, and now that the 16 civs and the increased map size make it possible, the balkans minor nations should be included:
Serbia + Montenegro
Romania
Bulgary
In fact, war started due to the tension between Austria-Hungary and Russia in the Balkans theatre.
Other important:
Irish rebels- supported by germans.
Due to the importance of strategic resources trade, some trading nations could be added (Sweden). Some could appear even out of the map, as the USA used to be represented in WW1 and WW2 european scenarios, making the german submarine blockade of Britain simulable, I´m thinking in the Colonial empires of England and France, as prime resources supporters.
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jsw363
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Originally posted by Big Crunch
Also I don't think France and Serbia were alligned. IIRC Austo-Hungary put pressure on Serbia, and the Russians alligned themselves to protect Serbia. When Germany got involved by supporting Austria-Hungary the French were called upon by the Russians. Britain got involved "officially" due to a pact with Belgium, but there were other obvious reasons to get involved. |
I concur, IIRC Russia had this whole notion of Pan-Slavism that dictated that they protect their fellow slavs living under Hapsburg rule. Serbia was an independent country, but many in Serbia wanted to create a Yugoslavia (Greater Slav State) by incorporating Hapsburg lands.
I would list the players as follows:
Germany
France
Britain
Russia
Austria-Hungary
Ottoman Empire
The other two spaces I would most likely reserve for Serbia and Belgium because of the important roles that they played in the war. I don't know how you would classify other states if you started in 1914, but if you limit it to eight players it would be difficult.
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Mongoloid Cow
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The sides might be:
1) German Empire
2) Austrian-Hungarian Empire
3) Russian Empire
4) British Empire
5) French Empire
6) Ottoman Empire (UU Janissaries - not sure if they were illegal or not yet)
and others could include:
7) Italian Empire
8) Serbia
9) Bulgaria
10) Romania
11) Belgium
12) Sweden
13) Greece
14) Netherlands
15) Some civ to be all neutral nations (Denmark, Switzerland, etc)
16) America (way off in the Atlantic and can only get involved in doing anything if specific events happen)
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Dauphin
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Caught in a tuna net
Jan 1970
time: 05:15
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Originally posted by Faboba
Serbia was not ( afaik cause it would make no sense ) part of Austro-Hungary because it was between those two bodies the war started. |
It was the annexation of B-H by Audtria and the desire for Serbia to create a "Yugoslavia" which included B-H that caused the tiff.
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A serbian terrorist group ( the black hand ) assasinated the Austrian Crown Prince ( Ferdinand? ). |
Yep. Franz-Ferdinand.
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Austria was calm and level headed about this, and immediately declared war on the whole of Serbia for the actions of one group ( cough. America. cough. Afganistan ). |
Actually they formulated a list of demands, for everyone to see and to agree with at an international convention. Only after the convention, and the Serbian refusal to only one of the points, did the Austrians declare war.
The assasination was late June, the first declaration of war early August, about the same length of time the US waited for the Afghanistan incident. 
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Russia stepped in for Serbia which obviously couldn't defend it'self against such a vast enemy and France and Germany, one bitter about the Franco-Prussian war, can't remember which, jumped in two, |
"Germany" kicked French hide, annexing A-L after laying siege to Paris in ~1871. It also lead to the formation of Germany as a nation state
Last edited by Dauphin on 27-10-2001 at 15:50
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Peter Triggs
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Gone Fishin, Canada
Jan 2000
time: 05:15
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Originally posted by Pseud0nym
Seems all good to me. The only input I have here is that you should somehow put mustard gas into the scenario. I 'm not sure exactly how that would be accomplished, but it definately needs to be in there. |
That's a good idea! But I think you'd need a scripting language to do that effectively.
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20-10-2001 13:13
The British could have prevented the war if they had made their intentions clear. But that is a debate best left to Imran.
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