20-10-2001 23:30									#1
	Trade - how beneficial is it, really? Got spare money?

In my current run of Civ2 I've actually set up an Excel database of cities-what they supply, what they demand, and on what continent they are located. It's 1973 in this game and there's a lot of trading going on.

It's fun, but am I just being geeky?

	21-10-2001 00:40									#2
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Trade; the key to a flourishing economy in Civ II.

Trade are proven to be lucrative (yes, my Finnish
civ earned tons of gold with trade routes).
They strengthen your economy and they can
be useful for completing WoW's.
IMO their impact on the science production
is perhaps not underestimated, if I say significant.
In my Finland game, those cities that were the
best science didn't necessarily have science WoW's,
but lots of trade routes; and many of them old
ones, that produce more trade than new ones
(it's a fact).

It perhaps makes it more easily understandable,
if I say that their's mostly at least one caravan/freight
unit included in my civ's exploration or military convoys.
Often I send some ships packed with caravans/freights,
without including any other units. They don't always
have military escort, due to cut backs in the army (
it's economical (well, not in the game, but in real world).

My final advice - if you're new to economy in Civ II,
follow the trade advisors hints.

	21-10-2001 07:50									#3
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Trade is of utmost importance in CivII! You get gold, science beakers, trade routes that produce more arrows in your cities - without it, you will not do as well. Caravans and freights are easily the most important units in the game.

	21-10-2001 10:08									#4
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Its not VITAL,but it sure makes the game a heckuva alot easier.Each 50 sheild investment can bring in 1000s of gold and science beakers.The higher the level,the more beneficial it is.Especially for representative governments.

You are not crazy.You should do it earlier for even more benefit.The earlier a trade route is setup,the more turns you have to reap the longterm benefits.

I think you'll junk the list once you see how demands like to change just as you arrive.Deliver to demanders..yes,but not if it is going to take another 20 turns to get there.Find 1 good ai city with potential for growth(food specials,lots of grass,rivers) and/or trade specials like whales and gold.Silk, spice etc.Send all cargo to that city using a ship chain.They only get 3 routes while you get many.

	23-10-2001 01:21									#5
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Thanks much. Actually this is my second major go round with trade in this run, and the reason for the database is all the changes in demand I've already seen--much easier to deal with those changes now. With all my cities connected by railroads or transports it's kinda fun now ...

	23-10-2001 16:31									#6
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singjai,
I've started a thread some weeks ago with the basic of trade.
I think it could help you (at least it helped me a lot) in understanding the effects on gold, trade arrows and beakers.
Give it a look!