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2 de mayo (Goya)
3 de mayo (Goya)
Bailen (Casado)
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3 de mayo

whithout doubt!

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pero no has votado en la poll!

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pero no has votado en la poll!

Bloody hell! qué bullita!

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mi senyora tambien ha votado por el de los fusilamientos de la Moncloa... y a mi que es el que menos me gusta de los tres (para este fin quiero decir).

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Why?

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I do not know, a matter of taste I guess. While 2 is undoubtedly the image of this war (and of many others, and also of a very important part of the history of Sapin), I find the other two more striking for this particular purpose.

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IMHO the mameluque (sp?) charge isn't representative of the war, Casado's politeness in Baylen neither.

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the 3rd of may
without any doubt

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Los dos primeros me duelen demasiado , tercero y listos.

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Maybe if you told me the purpose (scenario)...

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Henrik, I believe you're currently playing a PBEM that includes this

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a very tough choose!!! I believe that the second picture it is the best to represent the war...bur I like very much the third one so...........I don´t know which choose

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I've voted for the Bailén one.

Los fusilamientos de Goya son cuadros más bellos, geniales y sobrecogedores, pero paar este escenario el de Bailñen va que ni pintado.

Hay otro que también te podría venir bien, el de la promulgación de la Constitución en Cádiz... No sé cómo se llam exactamente ni quién es el autor, espero que sepas a cuál me refiero.

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Je, je, Fiera, ves como, Shulten y Sporting aparte, en muchas otras cosas si que estamos de acuerdo?

Se a cual te refieres con repecto a la Consti pero ese no me termina de llenar para esto tampoco.

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If the scenario starts after Bailén, then the Bailén picture is non-appropiate.
Í personally like the 3rd May picture, but it is more a patriotic picture than a war one. But the Charge of the Mamelucs shows the spanish people attacking with knives the mightiest army in the world, just a symbol of that war. So I've voted for the mameluks.

Ssstupendo, me he liado y por error he votado al de los fusilamientos. Bueno, teniendo en cuenta cómo va la poll, tampoco supone ninguna diferencia.

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I've voted for the Bailén one.

Los fusilamientos de Goya son cuadros más bellos, geniales y sobrecogedores, pero para este escenario el de Bailen va que ni pintado.
espero que sepas a cuál me refiero.

Ah! fiera.. para qué escribo y voto?, llegas antes, haces y dices lo que yo pienso, lo que me sale del alma. El cuadro es sobrecogedor, es también un modelo magnifico de lo que es la propaganda en las guerras, los franceses, oscuros, sin cara, los martires iluminados, exigiendo morir por su causa...incluso algo burdo y poco perfeccionado el cuadro... lo q mas importa es esa sensación de movimiento, de rebeldia ante la muerte, de... sí,sí ya me callo ...sorry.

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alf, o sea, el de bailen o el del 3 de mayo?

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pues ya voté al fusilamiento... en este area no soy disidente estoy con la mayoria

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ha votado un güevo de peña, no?

22, si q han gente q chequea esto y no postea

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A mi me gusta mas el de bailen. El de los fusilamientos no se lo veo un poco maniqueista, y no me gusta la simplificacion como hacen en peliculas de buenos y malas. pero bueno es solo una opinion.

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Voted for the second picture...

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IMHO 3 de mayo is the most dramatic of the three.
And I've never really cared for those collage things (option 4).
In the 2 de mayo image, it's not easy to tell what's happening.

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A mi me gusta mas el de bailen. El de los fusilamientos no se lo veo un poco maniqueista, y no me gusta la simplificacion como hacen en peliculas de buenos y malas. pero bueno es solo una opinion.

Jo macho, maniqueismo, he tenido que buscar en mi embotada mente para recordar esa palabra,ja,ja,ja.
Bueno, la visión hecha por Goya está en la línea "prensa y propaganda" de cualquier guerra, pero muy bien lograda desde el punto de vista estético.
Lo de Bailén, parece mas una visión de "ferpley" (juego limpio) en la guerra, algo bastante irreal, de hecho muchos de los prisioneros franceses de esta batalla las pasaron muy putas y murieron en Cabrera(?), faltos de alimentos y medicinas.
En las guerras las barbaridades son comunes a todos los implicados, pero desde el punto de vista español, una de las primeras barbaridades q desataron bastante las iras hispanas fue esta...

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This poll is the ultimate demonstration that there are so maaany lurkers out there: 24 votes. Are the regulars that many? Of course not.

Getting back on topic, I think there's no possible debate the firing squads win hands down. However, Bailen...

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Bueno, ya sabes, tú eres el que tiene la última palabra, el voto de calidad...

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