23-10-2001 23:43									#1
	Chaos at Civ III forums - something should be done swiftly! Suffering from ads?

In the past days (IMHO) there's been
chaos in the Civ III General forum, when new
threads have poped up like mushrooms and
for once you have had to check the previous
page/s for those threads you subscribed to
(I don't mean it's unusual, but I has become
much more common in these days).

But what has caused this? The approach of "that Day"?
Perhaps, but I think the reason is that there's not
proper forums for all Civ III related discussions.
First of all, the Civ II Creation forum is half empty.
Of course it's true that most scenario makers
might prefer the Scenario League, but still;
it's silly. The admins might blame spam,
but I don't see that as the reason for this
"chaos". AFAIK you, the Ape team (at least Markos),
has strengthened your spam surveillance, and as a
result of that many threads has been closed.
Well, I don't say that you're trying to limit
free speech, but I actually think that those
acts haven't brought better order to the Ape's forums.

If Markos & company could finally remove
the Civ III wishlist forum and move it's contents into
the archive (don't misunderstand me; I don't
want to destroy its contents). BTW, I can offer free and
ad-free storage space for it, but I want to see
some results first.

Secondly, these following groups
should be formed (I'll post a poll on them):

Civ III - Strategy
Civ III - Scenarios
Civ III - Customising

The Civ III - General would remain as before,
but the Civ III - Civilizations could be renamed
to Civ III - Future development.
The "EP's civs discussion" could continue there, and
the MP could also be debated in that group.
So everything related to futher development of
the game done by Firaxis, would be found in one group.

By doing these modifications, the posters
could easily find relevant groups for they
messages, without causing a massive flow of
postings into one single group.

Markos has earlier replied that there would
be one or two new Civ III groups coming up,
but I think all the Civ III forums should be
reorganised. And it should be done as soon as possible.

Members! You can take part in the election
under the "Forum reformations poll" thread.

	24-10-2001 00:26									#2
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Well when the game is released, some of these forums will become relevent, but until that date, they aren't relevent.

Yeah, there will also need to be a tighter degree of control and moderation when the game is released for the flood of new posters, but I think this should be handled easily as Apolyton has managed more than comfortably in the past.

I don't really see a problem, myself like you do. I think things seem to be running smooth and already, before the release of the game, the civ3 forums have quite a pleasant atmosphere to them, albeit for the odd bit of spam which is generally limited. People are getting excited and restless in the run up to the game, what else would you expect?

I am sure MarkG will make the appropriate decision about what to do with his site. I have been subtly prompting him for some information () and I am sure a decision will be reached very, very shortly, or at least announced shortly regarding the fate of the civ3 forums.

	24-10-2001 00:42									#3
	Inflate your Upload Space

MarkG... my offer still stands...
Whenever you want to take advantage of it

	24-10-2001 01:09									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Ming what's with the cryptic insider remarks...in public.

	24-10-2001 01:14									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Ming MarkG... my offer still stands... Whenever you want to take advantage of it

Your what still stands? Markos should take advantage of you, you say?

Awwww, love is in the air

	24-10-2001 01:41									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

You missed out a CIVIII MP forum from the above. (Not that I MP)

	24-10-2001 02:36									#7
	Re: Chaos at Civ III forums - something should be done swiftly! Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin In the past days (IMHO) there's been chaos in the Civ III General forum, when new threads have poped up like mushrooms and for once you have had to check the previous page/s for those threads you subscribed to (I don't mean it's unusual, but I has become much more common in these days). But what has caused this?

cause: newbies starting new threads without looking for an existing thread on the same topic.

suggested solution: mass bannings and pcrs

	24-10-2001 04:00									#8
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

not sure how many times i have announced this, here's one more


following the apolyton tradition, on october 31st the following forums will open

Civ3-Strategy
Civ3-Creation
Civ3-Help

Civ3-Civilizations will remain as is


thanks for the feedback