24-10-2001 19:23									#1
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Release date in Poland is December, 5-th.
Our distributor will translate the manual, but why will it take so long?

BTW, what are release dates in other EE countries:
Czech, Slovakia, Russia, Ukraina, Lithuania, Hungary, Bulgaria, etc?

	24-10-2001 19:36									#2
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Believe me, this is quality high-speed service. Would you want to accurately translate 250 pages of a foreign language manual plus all the internal game dialogue in a month? US/English Arcanum was delayed for 5 months to enable a simultaneous world wide release

	24-10-2001 19:53									#3
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quote: Originally posted by krzysiek Is Central and Eastern Europe the end of the world?

Well unfortunetly....

	25-10-2001 13:07									#4
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quote: Originally posted by krzysiek Release date in Poland is December, 5-th. Our distributor will translate the manual, but why will it take so long? BTW, what are release dates in other EE countries: Czech, Slovakia, Russia, Ukraina, Lithuania, Hungary, Bulgaria, etc?

Hah,
Hungarians have just imported SMAC
Seriously now, they usually take at least couple of months after German release. Plus they translate the manual, which is something I do NOT want them to do. That is why I preordered it from CB (although people here describe their shipping practices as sheer horror). Yin, is this true?

	25-10-2001 13:23									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Grumbold Believe me, this is quality high-speed service. Would you want to accurately translate 250 pages of a foreign language manual plus all the internal game dialogue in a month? US/English Arcanum was delayed for 5 months to enable a simultaneous world wide release

Only manual will be translated (game itself won't be altered).
And this don't justify that Civ3 will be available here 3 weeks after Western Europe releases. I think they'll have also manual translated.

Arcanum in Polish version was available "some time" after worldwide release. So 5 months delay didn't make any better

	25-10-2001 13:27									#6
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I heard the same thing about Chips & Bits. Since we (probably) all ordered through the link here at Apolyton maybe Mark can ask them for a statement with regards to the shipping date. If it's realy going to be late November, like suggested in an earlier thread, we can at least cancel and order it elsewhere.

	25-10-2001 14:08									#7
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I've just mailed Chips & Bits for confirmation on the shipping date. I'll post the answer as soon as it comes in.

	25-10-2001 14:21									#8
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Thanks, Mannamagnus! Very kind of you!

	25-10-2001 14:32									#9
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I ordered at Amazon.com. I'm paying $72, including shipping to the Netherlands. I just checked the status and here it is:

Delivery estimate: November 6-November 13
Civilization 3 Limited Edition Tin

They say it's shipping on 31 Oct.

This is their middle delivery. It's $4 more expensive than the cheapest, but a week faster.

Should be interesting to compare this and CB.

	25-10-2001 14:36									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Earthling7 I ordered at Amazon.com. I'm paying $72, including shipping to the Netherlands. I just checked the status and here it is: Delivery estimate: November 6-November 13 Civilization 3 Limited Edition Tin They say it's shipping on 31 Oct. This is their middle delivery. It's $4 more expensive than the cheapest, but a week faster. Should be interesting to compare this and CB.

Yeah, the trick is that we are at CB mercy since they are the only company shipping to our EE wilderness..

	25-10-2001 14:39									#11
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quote: Originally posted by LaRusso Yeah, the trick is that we are at CB mercy since they are the only company shipping to our EE wilderness..

That sucks! What's up with Amazon? Eliteism?

	25-10-2001 15:00									#12
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I hope it will be on 5 Dec.
My girlfriend will manage to buy it as Christmas gift...
I've heared price in Poland will be under 100z³ ($25)
So I rather will not buy it by net...

	25-10-2001 15:44									#13
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If Civ3 appears in Yugoslavian stores, it would be the first game ever which is possible to buy legally. And if price in Poland is going to be $25, then it should be $15 here.
None of this is going to happen, thought.

	25-10-2001 15:52									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Earthling7 I ordered at Amazon.com. I'm paying $72, including shipping to the Netherlands. I just checked the status and here it is: Delivery estimate: November 6-November 13 Civilization 3 Limited Edition Tin They say it's shipping on 31 Oct. This is their middle delivery. It's $4 more expensive than the cheapest, but a week faster. Should be interesting to compare this and CB.

I just received a couple of DVDs ordered from Amazon. The interesting bit is that it arrived a day EARLY. They said 26 Oct- 5 Nov (it was standard shipping). I hope Civ3 will be here Nov 4!!!

	25-10-2001 15:53									#15
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quote: Originally posted by pithorr My girlfriend will manage to buy it as Christmas gift...

Very brave girlfriend.
Is she aware of the fact that the Game will take most of your free time?

	25-10-2001 16:18									#16
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Did you ever see, "15 Minutes"? ... Eastern European chicks are hot

	25-10-2001 16:35									#17
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Yeah, there's nothing wrong with E. Europe. In fact, one of my good friends has moved out to Slovakia.

	25-10-2001 16:47									#18
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At the moment my girlfriends wants to buy it for me
She used to play games like Sim City and others, but about six months ago I gave her Civilization II to play around with and shee loves it, She even playing it now. My only worry is I have to stop playing Civ3 so she can have a go as well

	25-10-2001 16:52									#19
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mannamagnus, any news?

	25-10-2001 17:30									#20
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quote: Originally posted by GodSpawn Yeah, there's nothing wrong with E. Europe. In fact, one of my good friends has moved out to Slovakia.

Whereabouts?

	25-10-2001 20:50									#21
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Chips & Bits answered:

Dear Sir,

At this time all we have is a guess as no official release date has been announced at this time.

Sales Department
Chips & Bits, Inc.
PO Box 234
Rochester, VT 05767-0234
Telephone: 802.767.3033
800.699.4263
Fax: 802.767.3382
EMail: cbisales@cdmag.com
Our website address is http://www.chipsbits.com

	25-10-2001 20:54									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Deathwalker At the moment my girlfriends wants to buy it for me She used to play games like Sim City and others, but about six months ago I gave her Civilization II to play around with and shee loves it, She even playing it now. My only worry is I have to stop playing Civ3 so she can have a go as well

I have yet to meet a girl that enjoys my computer games. You are a lucky bastard.

I'm a quarter Slovak.

	25-10-2001 20:57									#23
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I replied to them:

Dear Sir,

Assuming the release date is October 30th (as announced on the websites of your competitors), when will you ship?

Yours truly

Mannamagnus

	25-10-2001 22:33									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Mannamagnus I replied to them: Dear Sir, Assuming the release date is October 30th (as announced on the websites of your competitors), when will you ship? Yours truly Mannamagnus

L L

Nothing beats a bit of sarcasm.

	25-10-2001 22:51									#25
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perhaps its about time i send them a snail mail with a bit of washing powder in it. that will make them appreciate treating their customers better

	25-10-2001 23:14									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Mannamagnus Chips & Bits answered: Dear Sir, At this time all we have is a guess as no official release date has been announced at this time. Sales Department Chips & Bits, Inc. PO Box 234 Rochester, VT 05767-0234 Telephone: 802.767.3033 800.699.4263 Fax: 802.767.3382 EMail: cbisales@cdmag.com Our website address is http://www.chipsbits.com

On my set-up that looks even funnier cause my screen is the perfect width for both 'at this times' to appear, one ontop of the other.

	25-10-2001 23:39									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Roman Whereabouts?

Bratislava. I'll be going for a visit sometime (when I can afford it - which may be some time )

	26-10-2001 00:53									#28
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Croatia: no store has any idea of how and when will they get it, and will they at all.

	26-10-2001 16:11									#29
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quote: Originally posted by LaRusso perhaps its about time i send them a snail mail with a bit of washing powder in it. that will make them appreciate treating their customers better

Be careful Larusso, somebody in the Netherlands got sentenced to one month jailtime for sending a letter with powder as a joke....

	26-10-2001 16:22									#30
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relax. i am just venting my anger over the forums. since both hungarian and serbian distribution systems are pathetic, and CB seems to be run by dozing incompetents, i ordered somehow from EB. my colleague will then DHL it at company's expense together with some useless work papers