27-02-2000 16:43									#1
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I was wondering if someone has already done this. I mean a page or list of good historic internet pages that can be of help for scenario design.

I tried to find one for the last couple of days but there doesn't seem to be a single one. So I assume there is none.

So I thought that it might be time for such a thing and I am planing to make one myself for my website. It would be a list of Links to various historic internet sites. Either with sections for ancient, medieval and modern or sorted by regions.
Also I general section with stuff that doesn't fit to the rest.

I do believe that this would be of great help to many scenario designers in spe who do lack the historic sources and for designers who need more information about their theme.

It would be very nice if you could give me suggestions and advice for such a project.
Also, if you know any good historic site you are welcome to tell me so I can include it into the list.

	28-02-2000 01:53									#2
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I don't know about dedicated sites for a single period, but the HISTORICAL TEXT ARCHIVE has long been a favourite site of mine.

	28-02-2000 04:26									#3
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Here is a site with some great information, pictures, stats, history etc... on the Soviet armor of WWII... Invaluable in building Red Front:
www.algonet.se/~toriert/introduction.htm

	28-02-2000 16:13									#4
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Great sites! I didn't know those two yet...
A lot of info there.

Thanks!

Anyone else know something?

	29-02-2000 09:13									#5
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Some ancient sites I've found.
http://www-oi.uchicago.edu/OI/MUS/P.../PAAI/PAAI.html
http://oznet.net/iran/frames3.htm
http://www.omnibusol.com/ancient.html
http://www.athenapub.com/gaulbck1.htm

A favorite of mine
http://www.ancientsites.com/xi/indexes/firstPage.rage
http://ancienthistory.tqn.com/educa...tory/msub20.htm

	29-02-2000 16:44									#6
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Here's two more. I actually first found those in some of Harlan Thompson's readme's with his scenarios. Those two are also linked through my civ2 site: http://ce.eng.usf.edu/pharos/wonders/
http://www.ukans.edu/history/VL/

The last one may will at least help you to find loads of other history-sites.
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	29-02-2000 20:58									#7
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I already sent these to Hendrik, but what the hell:

http://cal044202.student.utwente.nl/~marsares/ http://www.camelotintl.com/heritage/ http://www.greekciv.pdx.edu/structure/carr2.html http://www.crl.com/~zlater/history.html http://www.historyofindia.com/hist_text/home.html http://www.persia.net/ http://wso.williams.edu/~junterek/index.htm http://www.pipeline.com.au/users/ed...anc/geneanc.htm http://www.indiana.edu/~kglowack/athens/ http://www.providence.edu/dwc/

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	29-02-2000 21:31									#8
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I thought I had already found the best sites there are. I was definitly wrong about that!
I guess I have to do an major update in the next days...

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	01-03-2000 10:09									#9
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Here are two I always visit while designing a scenario. I know have been posted before:

Flags of the World

Regnal Chronologies
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	01-03-2000 16:40									#10
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I already knew of the first one with the flags but the other one with the lists of rulers is new to me. I think it's especially one for Stefan.

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	13-03-2000 17:25									#11
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I'm not sure if this fits in, but I just found a magnificent site about Middle-earth. Very nice info for anyone trying a Tolkien-scenario: http://people.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/...th/M-earth.html

	13-03-2000 21:35									#12
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I guess I will have to open a fantasy/fictional section, as well...
While at it. Do you know of any other good sites that are either displaying fantasy or fictional stuff?

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	15-03-2000 04:54									#13
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It's not fantasy/fictional, but I think you will like this one:
The History of Costume- by Braun & Schneider.
It may be really useful for unit makers, and it covers all ages and all civilizations, until 1880. You only need a bit of imagination to transform the pictures into Civ2 units.
The URL is: http://www.siue.edu/COSTUMES/history.html

	15-03-2000 15:11									#14
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Here's another interesting Tolkien site:
http://www.glyphweb.com/arda

	16-03-2000 03:06									#15
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That costumes site looks promising! Haven't really looked at it much yet but from what I did see it is not bad.

Glyphweb...Don't I know that name? Wasn't that a Civ II site some years ago?
That archive of them is huge btw!

	16-03-2000 23:39									#16
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One more link to your Resources Pages! And this one's just GREAT!

Its name is Classis Romana, it's all about ancient Roman Navy, with lots of pictures and complete info. Once again, a must-see for unit makers, as well as for anyone working on an ancient mediterranean scenario.

This is the link: http://home.t-online.de/home/Peter.Schmauss/roman.htm

	18-03-2000 19:42									#17
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Here's a great site if you're interessted in the crusades: http://crusades.idbsu.edu/contents.html

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	19-03-2000 23:52									#18
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I should never had asked...just kidding!
The more links the better! Once I have few more I'll update the site again.

I've set myself the goal now to get at least 100 links together. Shouldn't take too long I prosume...

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	21-03-2000 00:04									#19
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Theres a historic atlas called "The Times Historical Atlas" or something like that, it mentions it on the scenerio desingers league page, does anyone have this book? Or have accese to it, i.e. a library, friend or familly member etc? It sounds like a good investment for a scenerio designer, and if they had a scanner we could all benefit, i dunno, just a thought..

	21-03-2000 05:07									#20
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Zhuge - I have a copy of the Atlas (slightly waterstained from an overzealous neighbor deciding to pressure wash an open window) and it does have some decent maps, but they are more geopolitical than physical, so they are of limited use. I have recently seen that the National Geographic now has a CD of all of their maps available. I think that would be more useful...

	27-03-2000 20:14									#21
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Just one general question: What time are you people the most interested in? I'm asking because I'm planing on extending the Resource Page quite a bit in the next month when I have two weeks of free time.

Also it would be nice to know what you think of the Links that a currently on the Resource Page.

Of course, if anyone knows another good page, please let me know...

	29-03-2000 12:41									#22
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I like everything from ancient history to modern, but at the moment i'm most interested in ancient history, mostly in the roman empire and ancient greece.

	29-03-2000 16:53									#23
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I´m most interested in ancient and medieval history, especially the greek-, roman- and crusader-periods.
BTW, the links of Your page are great...

	29-03-2000 17:21									#24
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I like reading and knowing about most historical periods, with no exception, but I think that most of people is normally more interested in info about ancient and medieval times than about the recent ones, which are more easily approachable.

I'm also very interested in Renaissance and Discovery Age, but maybe some of you already guessed that.

BTW, here's a pair more links:

The Columbus Navigation Page http://www1.minn.net/~keithp/index.htm

Discoverers Web Homepage http://www.win.tue.nl/~engels/discovery/

Keep up this great work, Hendrik!

	30-03-2000 00:18									#25
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That's great to hear!

I prefer ancient and medieval history myself, too. Also the late medieval time at the time where it evolved to the Age of Discoveries.
Ah, just about everything as long as it is interesting.

Oh, and jgv, those two links are very nice. Didn't know them yet. I really like the Discoveres Web.
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	31-03-2000 17:35									#26
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You'll find this one very interesting: http://www.kimsoft.com/polwar.htm

It has the complete text of Sun Tzu's "Art of War" in English (Sun Tzu lived in the 5th century BC).

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Follow the masses!
30,000 lemmings can't be wrong.

We who grew up tall and proud
In the shadow of the mushroom cloud
Convinced our voices can't be heard
We just want to scream it louder and louder:
"What the hell are we fighting for?"
"Just surrender and it won't hurt at all"
-Brian May (Queen)

	07-04-2000 03:55									#27
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Hi, Hendrik! It's me again

Here's a new link, which you may find useful for your maps section: The Mercator Atlas of Europe (it's a commercial page, but it provides pictures of the maps).
http://www.WalkingTree.com/

P.S: Hey, I'm a Chieftain now!

	07-04-2000 17:05									#28
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Hey! Nice to hear from you again!

Beautifull old maps they show...finally one more link more to some nice maps...

How is that Pizarro scenario of yours going?

	07-04-2000 22:35									#29
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I'm afraid I haven't been able to do much of it these days...

BTW, I've got a weird problem with city plundering that's beginning to really worry me, and I probably will have to start it all out. Here's the thread if you want to take a look at it: http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum4/H...html?date=14:26

I'm at the point where you realize that doing a good scenario is not so easy.