26-10-2001 04:34									#1
	CTP2 is better Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I was going to buy Civ3 3 until i found out that it does not have multiplayer now i will just download the warez version of it.
Thats about all its worth for a try.... its so boring playing singleplayer, this type of game really has to be played multiplayer for a challenge .... I play CTP2 multiplayer at least 3 times a week and the game kicks ass i can't believe the guys that did Civ3 could not work out how to get multiplay working, what does that tell you about the rest of the game ?
I read some threads from some people who say they don't play multiplayer only singleplayer... these people must have a boring life or they are afraid of a challange .. maybe they just can't handle losing to another human.... I have never played CTP2 on the internet and i don't know why people think that multiplay has to invole the internet ? LAN is the way to go ... there is no better way to play this type of game and it only takes a few hours to play the whole game through once you play it this way you will never have to sit in front of your computer pretending that you like it singleplayer ever again....

	26-10-2001 04:46									#2
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Hehe. The spirit of civ is a single player one. U are not a Civ Fan.
Get out of my forum!

	26-10-2001 04:51									#3
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The reason you play multiplayer CTP2 is because the AI in that game rivals Civ 1's. CTP2 AI is crap. Civ3's AI will be good.

	26-10-2001 04:51									#4
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Ah yes you're new to the forums...

Look for all threads started by Yin26 and you will see that this topic has been talked about to death so I won't argue with you.

Asesino... when did this become your forum???

	26-10-2001 04:51									#5
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Not another MP vs. SP troll....

I've never played any civ games except SMAC as multiplayer. Does that make me any less of a person? NO. Firaxis has (hopefully) made civ3 SP enjoyable, which is why I have my copy reserved.

	26-10-2001 04:56									#6
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CTP2 sucks! It is nowehere near as good as Civ II Gold and it's not gonna come close to Civ III.

	26-10-2001 04:56									#7
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quote: Originally posted by GMOsco it only takes a few hours to play the whole game

Unless you are playing mini-map with 3 civs (which IMO is BORING), the game takes much longer than this. The problem with multiplayer is that the game takes too long. Multiplayer in a game like AoK is great since that game takes about 1 hour to play, but civ takes at least 20 hours per player, unless you are playing with a tiny map with few players, which is just not my game. I want 16 civs on a huge map and this will be too difficult in MP.

Also, not everyone has 3 hours straight to play every night, which eliminates LAN games.

	26-10-2001 05:02									#8
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ROFLMAO

CtP2 could easily rival Civ3 by now. Everyone saying it sucks has not posted in the CtP2 forums for well, as long as I've been there. (with the worthy exceptions of Splangy and Wittich <x> ).

Civ games are difficult to MP because of the long time needed, but LAN and PBEM are hugely successful with CtP, and Civ3's delay on that will be a bummer.

I prefer SP because of not having copious amounts of internet time or an LAN, but even so I'll be playing CtP2 along with Civ3 for a while yet.

	26-10-2001 05:04									#9
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Troll Troll Troll!!

	26-10-2001 07:31									#10
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Why was this moved here?

	26-10-2001 07:56									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael Why was this moved here?

Yeah- why wasn't this thread just closed instead?

But of course, when I see a comment like 'CTP2 is better', I have to show up...

CTP isn't even worth the voltage I am wasting to post this reponse.

	26-10-2001 08:06									#12
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CTP...


VADE RETRO GMOsco!!!

	26-10-2001 12:35									#13
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new high water mark of trolling

	26-10-2001 12:54									#14
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GMOsco:

Has it ever crossed your mind that not everyone enjoys playing MP games, or that they may not have sufficient time from RL obligations to do so?

Didn't think so. Still in school or have few RL responsibilities? If so, enjoy your youthful freedom while you still have it.

CYBERAmazon

	26-10-2001 14:08									#15
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Yin26. Get in here and adopt this child!

	26-10-2001 14:46									#16
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quote: I play CTP2 multiplayer at least 3 times a week

how can you play CtP2 multiplayer if there's no one on earth that wants to play CtP2 multiplayer with you ? Do you play against yourself, running from computer to computer ? Must be fun.... but a challenge .....

	26-10-2001 15:21									#17
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I would like to take this opportunity to mention that I have always considered MP on TBS to be to awkward to be feasible. I do play PBEM, so it is a sad loss not to have this. However I have played CtP2 a couple of times and have no intention of playing again. The game was awful, a very poor attempt at being a civ-clone and have since deleted it from my hard drive. I just didn't find it played well. CtP2 was a piece of sh*t

	26-10-2001 17:15									#18
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<em>" I read some threads from some people who say they don't play multiplayer only singleplayer... these people must have a boring life or they are afraid of a challange .. maybe they just can't handle losing to another human...."</em>

Should I bother to respond to such crap? Nah

Hey stop flame-baiting with your DL Horse.

	26-10-2001 17:21									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison CtP2 was a piece of sh*t

CtP2 WAS a piece of sh*t

Anyway, it was moved here because it is a comparison between more than one civ-game. It belongs in neither the Civ3 forum, nor the CtP2 forum, therefore it was put (as Marcos keeps saying) in its rightful place, the Apolyton/Community forum.

	26-10-2001 20:38									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Earthling7 Yin26. Get in here and adopt this child!

The adoption process is a very long and expensive one, running a year + and $10,000+ in many cases. Now the question I should ask myself: Should this be on cash or credit?

	26-10-2001 20:52									#21
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In this guy stupid?

CTP2 is a load of crap. Plus MP for CTP2 is broke..unpatched it does not work. CTP is way better...

and Civ3 will tower of both

	27-10-2001 01:20									#22
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quote: CTP2 is better

Classic



Joke right?

	27-10-2001 02:07									#23
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory CTP2 is a load of crap.

Was, was, was. PAST ****ING TENSE.

quote: Plus MP for CTP2 is broke..unpatched it does not work

Civ3 MP unpatched DOESN'T EXIST!! Ergo, CtP2 MP is better than Civ3 MP

	27-10-2001 09:33									#24
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Well if firaxis does not include MP and bails out live craptivision. I think a few phony anthrax letters will be in order

	27-10-2001 11:54									#25
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory I think a few phony anthrax letters will be in order

I wonder if comments like these are affordable with a price tag of 5 years in prison and/or a $10,000 fine.

quote: Well if firaxis does not include MP and bails out live craptivision...

Took me a while to figure this sentence out.
I don't think Firaxis will bail out on MP- there's too much money to be made in it.

	27-10-2001 20:43									#26
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IW,

<em>CtP 2</em> is a piece of crap without the mods. So the game is crap, unless a player bother to go to all the trouble of downloading and applying the mods.

I am almost certain that there will be a load of mods for <em>Civ 3</em> that will make it even better.

	27-10-2001 21:47									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael Asesino... when did this become your forum???

	27-10-2001 22:53									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Anunikoba I wonder if comments like these are affordable with a price tag of 5 years in prison and/or a $10,000 fine. Took me a while to figure this sentence out. I don't think Firaxis will bail out on MP- there's too much money to be made in it.

Anybody here ever heard of sarcasm?

Firaxis will bail out of MP if SP sales drop after awhile. These guys have certain goals...Goals are not met ; the deal is off

	28-10-2001 02:44									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger IW, <em>CtP 2</em> is a piece of crap without the mods. So the game is crap, unless a player bother to go to all the trouble of downloading and applying the mods.

Aha, the Game is crap without mods, but CtP2 the program without mods is a fantastic piece of potential fun
But that's a cop out answer, I personally enjoyed modding the game to hell, I've never played it, and I don't care. The mods make the game playable, and they don't take that long to download. No more effort than keeping up with a million versions of Civ2, and cheaper than getting a Civ3 MP patch.

	28-10-2001 07:06									#30
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I'll agree with Wombat there......the mods have turned CTP2 into a brilliant game from a frustrating and unplayable game,which I still play regularly.And I bet there's half of you here slagging off CTP2 even though you've never played it....modded or unmodded.