26-10-2001 18:57									#1
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Enough pages in 31, time to retire it.
And start a new one before War4 does

It's Friday. I'll be at Ming's around 7:30 CST. Hope to see others.


Rich

	26-10-2001 19:24									#2
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Rah... bring dinner

While I thought I was going to get lucky and be able to join the early saturday nite game for a change... It doesn't look as promising anymore. If anybody is interested in a late nite Saturday (somewhere between 10 - 11 CST) let me know.
We do get an extra hour of sleep this weekend... so why not use it instead to play civ

	26-10-2001 21:07									#3
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Ming, thanks for closing 31 so no one posts there by accident.

We wouldn't want anyone to accuse us of having multiple threads for the same game.


RAH

	27-10-2001 04:11									#4
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of course i am around

	27-10-2001 04:28									#5
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Anyone care for a game

	27-10-2001 04:34									#6
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i believe nappy may play tonite as well.......

	27-10-2001 05:47									#7
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Ming....I will be available if you are starting a "late" Sat. night game at 10-11 CST. My ICQ is 37676739 and I will be online by 9:30 pm CST.

	28-10-2001 03:07									#8
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I'll be around at the usual time tonight.

	28-10-2001 03:14									#9
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i will be watching the yankees game tonite....but i will be around for early civ too

	28-10-2001 21:32									#10
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sorry guzs..... powerfailure for 2 1/2 hours....... just when we were getting interesting tooo.......

	28-10-2001 21:38									#11
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Rah and I continued anyway... it was a lot easier once the AI was doing the attacks instead of you

	28-10-2001 22:18									#12
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i think most of your would have just squeeked out survival.....i couldn't' get the timing just right and rep was hurting the war effort... but i played well.... considering i was pinned.... should have built the lighthouse.... and i can't believe i screwed up on HG..... oh well...thems the breaks

	28-10-2001 23:23									#13
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you left quite a science powerhouse, the iron clads were cruising. Once I got cannons, bird's civ was doomed. I had steamrolled half his cities, and his cap and rest of his cities wouldn't have survived 10 more turns. It wouldn't have mattered if he had been directing the defense, it was a great steamroll of over 30 cannons with vet rifles for defense. I got gunpowder just in time or you would have done it to me. I did catch up on the mid wonders, adam smiths, shakes, magellens and finishing newts.

It was funny on the first turn that we continued, all the cannons and muskets on that mountain attacked the city, what was it 4 cannons 4 muskets. no damage
Much easier once the general was gone.

RAH

	29-10-2001 04:57									#14
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I did well without HG..... going the SSC route was good...again i took too long to get into republic...... was a shame.....had i played it right....i think i could have taken huge chunks out of all the empires on the board...

to bad the power went out...... you would have beat me to SOL but not to cops or issacs..... and your right....when the general was assasinated, confidence was thrashed and i am sure the usurper ai was just poor

It was great to start so early and it was nice to have vet gunpowder units on the board at such an early hour .......

Great game guyz...good to have you both in the same game....lets try that again

oh and nice verbal blathering about vet legions.... had to put a few more defensive units on the board....i thought bird was still pissed at me for nuking his capital...... but as i found out by listening to you lads.....you two were going at it

	29-10-2001 22:07									#15
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That game was a good example of how to have fun even when the odds are against you. I had a horrible starting position, with no trade specials at all (except two silk, one of which rah built on before I could and the other one which I didn't find until mid-game or so), but pretty good production and food. Only found one hut (50 gold) and barbs never appeared in my area. Couldn't revolt to monarchy until 1850 BC, which is awful. And then it turns out that I was pinned in b/c the only way to expand was south, through a chokepoint which, despite being fairly wide, rah had build cities on both sides and directly south of. So I decided to be a warmonger, which failed completely. Maybe I should have gone for mapmaking early, but didn't want to get sidetracked from feudalism, and then when I got feudalism, I wanted iron working to try to take advantage of the small window of opportunity it would give me. But then the vet legions were worthless, which I still can't understand.

When I established an embassy with rah, he had something like 24 techs to my 16, and it wasn't going to get any better, with him in republic and me likely never to get there even if it could help. I was only getting discoveries every 7 turns at the end, despite 12 cities. My days were indeed numbered. rah, it is too bad war got bounced, b/c you and he would have had an interesting contest to see which one took the most cities. He was at it before you, but I think he would have had a harder time b/c he had to transport all his troops by boat, which was going to be risky until he got ironclads.

Had fun, though, despite it all. (Still can't understand those legions. Bastards.)

	30-10-2001 00:26									#16
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The legions aren't that much of mystery. I did have a embassy so I knew you had Iron Works. I rushed a barracks and had quite a few vet phalanx. 3x1.5x1.5 so it 6 against 6. My defenders always just survived with a sliver of red and with the barracks they were ready to go the next turn. Once I got math, no chance.

But it did cost me considerable resources which really helped War out. You were doing a great job of starving my capital and splitting my empire in half. A lot of caravans had to settle for bad payoffs or kept me from some wonders. (if you had played a few more turns you would have seen my response to that) Between that and War4 nibbling on the other end, a lot of resources wasted. A lot of gold rushbuilding units to replace those lost and for preparing the counter attack. The whole time Ming was all by his lonesome expanding like crazy. Being in the middle was interesting.

But it was a fun game and you are to be commended for fighting it out. But you probably should have gone map making. There was a large mass SE of me that I didn't get to right away that you probably could have beat me to. Each pair of legions could have been a ship and a settler. But it's easy to second quess using hindsight.

And by the time we finished, war4/ai had lots of ironclads patrolling the oceans. Leaving the AI with a SSC is pretty potent.

It was interesting taking out your cities played by the AI since they were all on good defensive terrain. The AI never builds like that. They all had walls by the time I got there to replace the GW expiring.

It's too bad we had problems, an early start like that was rare and the game gets fun when cannons, iron clads and muskets/rifles appear.

Rich

	02-11-2001 19:51									#17
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so i am around tonite...even though i have a copy of civ3 i will be looking around the usual time

	02-11-2001 21:14									#18
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You can play test civIII while you wait for me to finish eating.

I'll be around the normal time. @ Ming's

Rich

Mp still wins the FUN war over CTPIII,

	03-11-2001 00:33									#19
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Rah... bring food. I'll be starving by then. Normal time?

	03-11-2001 04:42									#20
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quote: Originally posted by rah You can play test civIII while you wait for me to finish eating. I'll be around the normal time. @ Ming's Rich Mp still wins the FUN war over CTPIII,

sigh...alas that is what it feels like so far to me as well

	03-11-2001 06:09									#21
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what time's the normal time? i forgot

	03-11-2001 06:21									#22
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Soon Rah just got here... finishing up dinner now.

	03-11-2001 18:05									#23
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I'll be around tonight. The only time the Yankees seem to lose is when I'm playing civ, so let 's get started early.

	03-11-2001 21:22									#24
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i will be around early tooo......what time were you thinking bird..... if we could start around 5- 530 cst that would be great and allow for a long session tonte....

go yanks go......

early start ...early start!!

	03-11-2001 22:00									#25
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war, i am not messing with you, just downloaded 2001b and there are problems

will haveto reload after i get my new proccesor today 800mz celeron. at least against ai i can handle republic in civ3, but still build too slowly to keep from being hemmed in by ai. thou i did get 3 cities to defect to me and was working on 4th. hope to play tonite, but we will see
barono

	03-11-2001 22:37									#26
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no worries barano....i finally gave up and played some civ3..... i too got hemmed in on the normal map.....the ai expands fast.......gotta drop those cities quick...and those raging barbs and their encapments are a b!tch

	03-11-2001 23:21									#27
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I won't be able to play with the early crowd... (probably)... so if anybody is interested late night (10 - 11 pm cst) I'll be around...
If not, probably more civ III then

	04-11-2001 23:00									#28
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Well I am not at all happy with CIV III SP. I would prefer a good MP Civ 2. This thread seems to be a place to find good players.

I would love to get a game of some 4-5 players going.

Anywhere else I can go to find other folks to start a Civ II MP if this is not the place?

The group I used to game with is down 2 just 2.

Let me know, thanks

my email is tdfxman@yahoo.com or yahoo IM, same handle

	05-11-2001 00:17									#29
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sbeck22

We are always looking for new players
We usually play "Rah" rules...
2x pro 1x movement
No City bribes, unit bribing Ok
No "instant teleportion" for units or caravans
No "gifting" units to give double movement in same turn
No Sharing Wonders
Raging Hordes

And if you are still interested after reading the above... you might want to download ICQ... because we use it extensively to play.

Games are usually played on Friday and Saturday nights..
Tuesday nights... and anytime you can find a person to play

	05-11-2001 11:06									#30
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hi what time do u all play on friday and saturday? can i join late (take an ai) tuesday?

i play on the zone alot but i like ur rules (smallish map)?


peace (in the real world) terry