28-10-2001 00:45									#1
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hmmm....

quote: 1 2,107 1,258 3 Uncle Enzo Imperial StarShip 2 685 54 5 teedo757 Merchant Freighter 3 554 811 1 Sower # Ship Destroyed # 4 247 -661 4 Wittlich Merchant Freighter 5 127 1 ** Xozzox Merchant Freighter 6 81 25 6 Draebor Merchant Freighter 7 58 -5 2 Kaze # Ship Destroyed # 8 27 -1 ** polaris66 Merchant Cruiser 9 12 0 ** Nick Merchant Cruiser 10 2 2 ** Swiss Merchant Freighter 11 0 0 ** Mike Merchant Cruiser 12 0 -552 4 Windstar # Ship Destroyed # 13 0 0 ** Steve Merchant Cruiser 14 0 0 ** Demonite Merchant Cruiser 15 0 0 ** Earthy Merchant Cruiser 16 0 0 ** Kirok Merchant Cruiser 17 0 0 ** Cyberwz Merchant Cruiser 18 0 0 ** Belgium Merchant Cruiser

I would suggest that a lot of those at the bottom of the barrel are dupes...

Although this doesn't mean they are even active dupes, since their exp. hasn't gone up, it still bothers me...

Anyone know who these guys are? Otherwise, we should start making a dupe list.

	28-10-2001 02:11									#2
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You may be right Aeturneus. The only one I can vouch for is Windstar (who is Urban Ranger)...but the 6 listed below him? You've got me.

	28-10-2001 09:38									#3
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Except for Swiss and us most of those look like dupes.

	30-10-2001 02:30									#4
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Well, thanks to some complete idiot, things got a lot worse in the duping situation last night. I was attacked by about 15 dupes in a row, who chewed through almost 500,000 worth of my exploitative and defensive assets before getting bored. I've talked to Dan about this issue, and he closed the game and is currently tracking down specific IP addresses. We should see accounts being deleted throughout the rest of the week as he begins to figure out who is responsible for this.

-Aeturneus

	30-10-2001 08:46									#5
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I was quite amazed to see one called teedo756. That's almost uncanny.

	30-10-2001 08:51									#6
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I don't think tracking IPs will do any good because there are too many compounding factors, for example:

• people who use the same proxy sever


• people from the same ISP


• people from the same company, as they are connected to the Net via the same router that is very likely to have a very narrow range of addresses (many more smaller companies than large ones that can afford large blocks of real IP addresses).

	30-10-2001 09:02									#7
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I don't think it is teedo that is duping. Teedo756 attacked me, and since teedo757 and I have been working together for a while, I doubt that he would attack our own corp.

+ I have talked with him and he doesn't seem like a very malicious fellow to me

The game is closed. Do you mean that dan should rebang the game to clean it out? I personally think that this game can be saved. There are some other things involved than IP addresses, which you make valid points about, eg. most of the dupes are using the same password, according to Dan, and will be cleaned out as far as I know. I don't think anyone except me has suffered a massive assault from the dupes, and I'm willing to bear it rather than go through the boredom of rebuilding from scratch yet again. The thing to do now is just let the sysop do his job and see how things look in a week.

-Aeturneus

	30-10-2001 12:25									#8
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[Edit - Clever tactic UR, but thankfully I was able to get back into position.]

Dupes have made this game extremely challenging... I sincerely hope it isn't broken for me.

Last edited by aeturneus on 30-10-2001 at 12:36

	30-10-2001 16:30									#9
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Closed as in not letting anybody create new accounts. There was this new guy, wiper3 I believe, online last night. A friend of teedo757's, I guess.

As for teedo he seems okay. I remember running across him one night and he said hello to me.

Maybe somebody else found your hideout and wants your base? That seems the only reason I can think of right now.

	30-10-2001 19:15									#10
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nahah... teedo 756 not 756

Yeah, I guess someone wants my base... bad...

Hmm you would fall into that category

	30-10-2001 22:02									#11
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oh and the game is closed at this moment, in case anyone is still wondering. Wiper isn't a brand new account, he appeared yesterday b4 dan closed the game.

	31-10-2001 21:38									#12
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Great, now it's starting to bug me too. Teedo756 and Armstrong were the two today, there were others yesterday. No one podded me, but the deployed fighters killing is getting old, esp. if it comes from dupes.

	01-11-2001 13:30									#13
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I don't think any dupes can pod you, Uncle Enzo

	01-11-2001 19:53									#14
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Heh, 1,000 dupes, all typing at the same time...