29-10-2001 14:19									#1
	Limited Edition Tin only in the USA? Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Now when the people in Europe canīt get a copy of the Limited Edition Tin then I guess we "only" can get the Standard Edition. Are there a way of getting the Limited Edition Tin when you are not living in the USA? Perhaps we are able to buy it later on? Does anybody knows about that? Because I want the LE now!

	29-10-2001 14:51									#2
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only ordering it now via internet.
EB (and it seems also) amazon do not ship outside US so you will have to arrange it first to be sent to a friend of yours who would then resend it
CB ships LE outside US but they seem to be highly unreliable.

	29-10-2001 14:53									#3
	Got spare money?

That would just be screwed if Infogrames didn't ship the LE worldwide , many anticipated games that include an LE ship with a large quantity, plus not that many people are going to buy Civ 3.

	29-10-2001 15:56									#4
	What about Canada? Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Can one get Civ3 LE in Canada?
(Have a friend living overthere )

	29-10-2001 18:24									#5
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I pre-ordered the LE from EB about a month ago and there doesn't seem to be any problem with them shipping to Canada.

p.

	29-10-2001 18:26									#6
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Apparently, americans are unable to ship any goods of a certain type by airplane after the recent -tragic- events.

Tin is probably considered to be a serious risk on board a plane.

	29-10-2001 18:31									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Peterk I pre-ordered the LE from EB about a month ago and there doesn't seem to be any problem with them shipping to Canada. p.

Canada is considered a part of US for purposes of shipping all the stuff once can order through web

	29-10-2001 18:31									#8
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quote: Apparently, americans are unable to ship any goods of a certain type by airplane after the recent -tragic- events. Tin is probably considered to be a serious risk on board a plane.

Oh the bitter irony... Originally posted by Grim Legacy

	29-10-2001 18:32									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Grim Legacy Apparently, americans are unable to ship any goods of a certain type by airplane after the recent -tragic- events. Tin is probably considered to be a serious risk on board a plane.

i bet you can still have it shipped. once CB decides to mail it...

	29-10-2001 18:40									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat Oh the bitter irony... Originally posted by Grim Legacy

I am continually aware of the irony that can be regularly derived from my alias. Also note the signature tuned for similar purposes. =]

	29-10-2001 18:42									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by LaRusso i bet you can still have it shipped. once CB decides to mail it...

CB?

I read that the americans will be served first, and that the LE is pretty much usa-only due to it's 'limited' availability in terms of copies. After the states have feasted upon LE, there won't be many tablescraps left to ship out.

	29-10-2001 18:46									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by Grim Legacy CB? I read that the americans will be served first, and that the LE is pretty much usa-only due to it's 'limited' availability in terms of copies. After the states have feasted upon LE, there won't be many tablescraps left to ship out.

CB = chips and bits
i cancelled my preorder with them coz they seem to be rather lethargic when it comes to shipping...

	29-10-2001 18:49									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

If the LE doesn't come to my country i won't buy the game.

I will buy a warez copy or probably even get it for free.

I don't like being descriminated.

	29-10-2001 18:49									#14
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quote: Originally posted by LaRusso CB = chips and bits i cancelled my preorder with them coz they seem to be rather lethargic when it comes to shipping...

Oh well I chose Amazon. Likewise, in vain.

	29-10-2001 19:43									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Grim Legacy Oh well I chose Amazon. Likewise, in vain.

If I ordered it from Amazon.com, then won't I get it? Why could you choose "Denmark" in the list of destinations then (or was that just an "outside US" option)?

What's the easiest way to change my order then? Just cancel?

	29-10-2001 20:19									#16
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The sad part of this fars is that LE/BTE "might"
be released in Europe in "spring 2002".
If it's true that US shops are not allowed to
ship the LE/BTE to foreign countries before
the standard Civ III (or even perhaps LE/BTE )
has been released on the customers local
market, that could mean a delay in the
European "preorders" from USA until...
suprise, suprise; next spring!

So that's what I call "excellent service",
"listening to the fans' demands" and
"ultra fast shipping".

Infogrames! I demand your attention!

	29-10-2001 20:41									#17
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quote: Originally posted by hetairoi22 What's the easiest way to change my order then? Just cancel?

If you have selected any kind of money card
as payment alternative, then just cancel your
order. They shouldn't charge you before they have
actually delievered the game.
If cheque/money order, then it's not so easy.
I suggest that you contact the bank that
issued the cheque.

	29-10-2001 21:22									#18
	Full PM-box? Change here!

I am not interested in the LE, anyway -just a waste of money.

But sure -this little nicety shows -once again- how much they 'care'.

	29-10-2001 21:34									#19
	Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by Bakunine If the LE doesn't come to my country i won't buy the game. I will buy a warez copy or probably even get it for free. I don't like being descriminated.

You don't like desdrimination, but you don't mind stealing? Interesting ethics.

	29-10-2001 23:41									#20
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See my email response from EB

Thank you for using the EBgames.com Online Customer Service Center.

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I am living in Copenhagen, Denmark, and I am wondering if you at
EBgames are going to ship the computergame Civilization III Limited Edition Tin outside the USA, because I have pre-ordered the game two months ago from Amazon.com and they now say that they will not ship the game outside the USA. I am going to cancel my order with these bastards, and now I ask, if you are going to sell the game to people here in Europe? Then I will place my order at your fine store.
Thank you for your help.

Mads Raven

--
Answer: Hello from EBgames,
Thank you for writing us. We are shipping this game to your area. It can be found at this following link to order:
http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categori...?pf%5Fid=202330
If you have any more questions or comments please reply to this email, give us a call at 1-877-432-9675 (internationally at 1-702-614-1570), or take a look at http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/help/default.asp as you may be able to find the answers to your questions in our help section.
Thank you for choosing EBgames.com.
Best regards,
Customer Service Rep.
EBgames.com
For further questions on this topic click on the link below. http://207.138.140.105:80/AtOnceSer...amp;clid=100380

So what do you get of this information? Perhaps EB will ship the
game to Europe - or what do you think?

	30-10-2001 00:29									#21
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I have ordered the LE quite some time ago at amazon, and just wait whether tomorrow I get the mail that the item has been shipped or not. It could well be that the "shipping" check is just at ordering time.

When I do not get this mail, I will ask them and if needed cancel. If I have to wait more than a few days, I will just buy it the 16th in some shop in town.

	30-10-2001 01:07									#22
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quote: Originally posted by hetairoi22 If I ordered it from Amazon.com, then won't I get it? Why could you choose "Denmark" in the list of destinations then (or was that just an "outside US" option)? What's the easiest way to change my order then? Just cancel?

I ordered the LE from Amazon as well, and until *very* recently, they said that the item would ship internationally. The Netherlands, where I live, is a valid destination.

I don't know whether you should cancel. They charge your credit card when they ship it, apparently, so you can choose to wait. I will do so myself, until I can get what I want from someone/somewhere else quicker.

	30-10-2001 01:25									#23
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin Infogrames! I demand your attention!

Dream on...

I pre-ordered the LE. If I don't get that, I will get nothing, until it magically drops onto my hard drive. I am NOT going to buy it with a Dutch manual in a DVD box!

	30-10-2001 01:33									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Earthling7 Dream on... I pre-ordered the LE. If I don't get that, I will get nothing, until it magically drops onto my hard drive. I am NOT going to buy it with a Dutch manual in a DVD box!

Heheheh. I guess we feel the same about Dutch manuals and DVD boxes.

	30-10-2001 04:00									#25
	Australia gets the LE! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I was in EB here in Melbourne and I coulda pre-ordered the LE on saturday. However, due to it being $119 I said stuff that!!!!!

But the LE IS coming to Australia.

	30-10-2001 19:23									#26
	Tired of ads?

But still - it is a long way to Denmark, or even Europe!

	30-10-2001 19:37									#27
	Disenchantment outside the US. Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Well it may be all nice and well for the North Americans but the rest of the world is still waiting. Not only are Infogrames not prepared to release the game at the same time in the rest of the world, they will not allow you to purchase it from the US. What the hell are they playing at? I have seen quite a few people's call to download the game via warez sites, and quite frankly, I can't blame you.

Isn't it hypocritical when they tell you not to 'steal' from these sites, yet they are quite willing to withhold a product that you want leaving you with no option. It stinks. I also follow Eli's thread and call everyone else in the world to acquire the game by other means until released. And even then, I would rather send the money straight to Firaxis and not via Infogrames on principle of their discriminatory corporate policy against the rest of the world.

I am prepared for my money to go to Firaxis, but not to Infogrames for their shoddy treatment of the rest of the world. And they are a French company as well! Yet this thing has been made so you can get it in the US and US alone, and I can't see a good reason why? Divide and conquer for some reason. Well down with Infogrames if this is the kind of sh*t they are going to pull.

	30-10-2001 20:12									#28
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You know, it is not because infogrames is a french company that the french people will have the game before you. There is no release date for france right now. And the game does not exist on french website of infogrames.
So if you think you are not lucky what do you think of my position

	30-10-2001 22:59									#29
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Infogrames doesn't want people outside the country buying the US version because they're probably preparing European versions with different language manuals. Isn't that why games created by US development houses are delayed for release in Europe, because language and marketing issues are being resolved? If a large number of people outside the US simply buy the US version, then Infogrames is losing out on the costs they've incurred by preparing specific European versions of the game. By restricting the release, they stand a much better chance of hitting their sales targets on the European version.
Sure, some people will go to warez sites, but that's going to be hardcore gamers and people with loose ethics at best, a very tiny demographic... it may piss people off, but not enough to hurt sales in the international market.

I just don't see why more companies don't aim for simultaneous North American/Worldwide release... wasn't Alpha Centauri released that way? Globally all on the same date? I know there's been at least one game that had a worldwide release... if that worked before, I don't see why it can't work now.

	31-10-2001 00:59									#30
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Is the LE worth the extra money?

What do they actually give you?