30-10-2001 09:57									#1
	Anyone still holding out? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

I was planning on being cool headed about Civ3. You know waiting for reviews and readers comments before plunking down cash. Hell I wasn't even going to buy the Limited Edition but somethings come over me, and I'll be off to Best Buy or EB tomorow morning after my 8:30 class, I'd cut but they don't open till 10:00.

Although I haven't been vocal pessimist; I've been pessimistic about the overall quality of the game, mainly in the scenario department (not that I have time to make them.) Argh! Time's going to be a big issue. Crap. I've got an interview at 3pm for a internship tommorrow, then at 6pm my friends having a birthday party (I'll arive late; so I can get a few turns in). Wednesday's just as bad classes from 10:00 till 3:00 and it's holloween so my friends will start calling me right after class (the pub is open at 10am), so unless I unplug my phone and turn off the cell, I'm going out (I want to anyway). Thursday ah bliss! except the 8:30 class I'm free all day woohoo. Civ3 aw yeah! The Weekend already shot by work. Enough rambling.

So my question is are any of the pessimist on this board not buying the game? It appears both Yin and Locutus have been converted. Any hold outs?

	30-10-2001 10:02									#2
	Support Apolyton

Hold on! I will only buy this game in the near future under ONE condition: If the LE is released in Korea for $35. At that price, it's a bargain if for only nostalgic reasons alone.

Judging from what I've heard about the lack of scenarios and some AI issues, however, is making me wonder about that $35 itself, actually, as being over-priced.

	30-10-2001 10:02									#3
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	30-10-2001 10:03									#4
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Yes Sophix,

Im not buying the game for awhile

Plus I think PBEM is now not possible. The saved game file Sizes are in excess of 3 MB. I just dont have 45 minutes to upload them...

	30-10-2001 10:05									#5
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Yes Sophix, Im not buying the game for awhile Plus I think PBEM is now not possible. The saved game file Sizes are in excess of 3 MB. I just dont have 45 minutes to upload them...

It appears to be uncompressed. Someone on these forums mentioned that they zip down to the range of hundreds of kilobytes.

	30-10-2001 10:06									#6
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Hmm. Is this pessimist hour? Three replies in a matter of seconds wow!

	30-10-2001 10:09									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Yes Sophix, Im not buying the game for awhile Plus I think PBEM is now not possible. The saved game file Sizes are in excess of 3 MB. I just dont have 45 minutes to upload them...

Hmm that is bad CTP's were 1 meg I think, of course PBEM file sizes was about 20% of that. Not sure I'll be able to play PBEM any way.

	30-10-2001 10:19									#8
	Support Apolyton

quote: Hold on! I will only buy this game in the near future under ONE condition: If the LE is released in Korea for $35. At that price, it's a bargain if for only nostalgic reasons alone. Judging from what I've heard about the lack of scenarios and some AI issues, however, is making me wonder about that $35 itself, actually, as being over-priced.

I stand corrected.

Replying in three seperate posts is not spam, it's just my way of posting more and making my threads look more popular

	30-10-2001 10:21									#9
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LOL! Nice strategy. Anyway, you got to admit $35 for the LE is pretty darn tempting ... this is just God's way of laughing at me, I think.

	30-10-2001 10:25									#10
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

i for one am still am holding out til MP. or at least trying

	30-10-2001 10:26									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by faded glory Yes Sophix, Im not buying the game for awhile Plus I think PBEM is now not possible. The saved game file Sizes are in excess of 3 MB. I just dont have 45 minutes to upload them...

3MB
That sounds like some sloppy, non-optimized code.
Mine should arrive tomorrow. Sorry, but $50 + s&h just didn't seem like that much. Were I still a poor student, I'd probably wait though.

	30-10-2001 10:51									#12
	Holding Out Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I'm not buying it until I see Civ 3 Multiplayer Gold or a free multiplayer patch. I wouldn't buy the single player version unless it got pretty cheap.

I'll just stick with Civ 2 and CTP 2, which I play MP with my g/f

	30-10-2001 10:54									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Challenge. I want to see what good players have to say about it. I can beat the SMAC and CivII AI at the highest levels with hands tied behind my back. I'm not neccesarily asking for better AI, but at the very least smarter, scaled cheating.

If I see some people whom I respect in this field praising it, perhaps I'll grab Civ3 while the 10$ rebate is still active at EBWorld. Otherwise, I'll wait awhile for the price to drop to 20 or 30 bucks.

	30-10-2001 11:00									#14
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I am waiting, but I assume that I will buy it (or have it given to me) at some point.

	30-10-2001 16:52									#15
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quote: Originally posted by The Templar 3MB That sounds like some sloppy, non-optimized code. Mine should arrive tomorrow. Sorry, but $50 + s&h just didn't seem like that much. Were I still a poor student, I'd probably wait though.

yet those same students go to st padre's or cancun for spring break. as a poor serbian student, i forked out money for both civ2 and red alert. heck, a pair of trainers is 100 bucks

	30-10-2001 18:04									#16
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Although it is indeed still open whether CIv III will be as good as Civ II, I've pre-ordered Civ III. The reason is that I have played CIv I and Civ II for 5000+ hours, but all I had back then were illegal copies. So now with my much improved income I feel more than obliged to buy this game simply to bring back money into the system that already gave me so much fun time.

	30-10-2001 18:35									#17
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I'll get Civ III when it comes out in the UK practically no matter wht anyone says simply because I get a 10 day guaranteed return policy. That means the best possible reviewer can make a personal assessment of whether the good outweighs the bad.

	30-10-2001 18:52									#18
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quote: So my question is are any of the pessimist on this board not buying the game? It appears both Yin and Locutus have been converted. Any hold outs?

Hmm......chalk me up for one who sticks to their guns. I don't sell out for anything.

Theres an Eb 5 miles from where I live and could pick it up at any time.......but I've got two civ2 games going right now, and I dont have plans to quit either.

Even if it was a complete game and inculded everything it should, I probably would wait a few months anyway. I've never been one to jump on the bandwagon.

	30-10-2001 19:50									#19
	Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by yin26 Hold on! I will only buy this game in the near future under ONE condition: If the LE is released in Korea for $35. At that price, it's a bargain if for only nostalgic reasons alone.

Looks like our attempts to reverend Yin
have been waste of time. I suppose we'll
have to put more effort on that.

	30-10-2001 20:00									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I'm holding out until maybe I can get a job and get enough money to buy it (without my wife getting upset at me for buying another game instead of paying bills).

Joe.