30-10-2001 19:02									#1
	Manhatten Project, is it a major or a minor wonder ? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Several people gave different answers to this question.
Can someone that is actually playing the game, confirm if the Manhatten Project is a major or a minor wonder ?

	30-10-2001 19:07									#2
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It's major.

	30-10-2001 19:08									#3
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AFAIK it's minor.

	30-10-2001 19:10									#4
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So far, those people in this forum who've played the game say that it is a minor wonder. I know that Avault's screenshot indicated that it was a major wonder, but I believe that is false. They must have an earlier version of the game.

	30-10-2001 19:12									#5
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I remember that some Firaxis guy said that your civ(and your civ only) will be able to build nukes after the MP is ready. And since they wont limit nukes to one civ it should be a minor one.

	30-10-2001 19:20									#6
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The Manhattan project is definitely a great wonder. It works slightly differently from the others because it allows the construction of nuclear weapons by all civilizations.

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	30-10-2001 19:23									#7
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Well, looks like this will be the first thing that's edited then. Why Firaxis changed it back to a great wonder instead of a minor that all civ's must build is beyond me.

Did all other Civ's in the world gain instant ability to build nukes once the US did? No. Shouldn't be any different in the game (i.e. no freebies for anyone!)

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	30-10-2001 19:23									#8
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quote: Originally posted by BlueHooHoo The Manhattan project is definitely a great wonder. It works slightly differently from the others because it allows the construction of nuclear weapons by all civilizations.

But but but...
I'm sure that I heard some official source saying it's not like this.

Btw, BlueHooHoo, can you check the PDF Manual thread now?

	30-10-2001 19:25									#9
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That sux...

/calls over the Editor/

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	30-10-2001 19:28									#10
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it would really suck if it's a major wonder !
Why should anybody build it if everybody will gain profit from it.
In civ2 I always wait untill someone else builds it.

that gives me time to research ahead so I can build SDI's before my enemies can trow nukes.

	31-10-2001 08:28									#11
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...So it is a minor wonder?
Do we have concensus?

	31-10-2001 08:52									#12
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It's a major. Eli has it exactly right.

	31-10-2001 08:57									#13
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yep, its major, looking at the civilopedia right now

	31-10-2001 09:33									#14
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Well, I know we can change it to a minor on our own..

BUT

Can we change it's effects? It would be worthless to have it be a minor wonder, but still give everyone the capabiltiy to have nukes... Then it would be just the same, except everyone can have the icon.

	31-10-2001 17:58									#15
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quote: Originally posted by TVA22 Well, I know we can change it to a minor on our own.. .

Actually, after looking at the editor for a while, I don't think this project can be changed to a small wonder. The reason is that the 'flags' for the small wonders don't included the ManhatP option- this option is only listed in the major wonders.

But you could make up a prerequisite technology that must be researched before nukes can be produced. This would be easy to do.