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chris007jg is offline chris007jg
Settler

Oct 2001
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Can't run game but will run editor Put an end to popups!

I just got the game, LE, yesterday the 29th. I have a dell Inspiron 8000 purchased new in April 2001.
1GHz
256MB
32GB
ati M4 32 MB graphics that says its full open gl
dvd and cdrw seperate drives
WinME, Hey its what Dell put on it.

When i run the game i get the title screen then the program quits.
just stops and exits.
I have successfully installed and played on my tower, AMD K6-2/400 Win98SE with no major problems and like the subject says the laptop will run the editor just not the game.

Thanks
chris

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Sep 2001
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I'm using a AMD k6-2 350 mhz 160 megs of ram and voodoo 3 3000 and I'm having the same problem

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Jul 2000
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I'm getting this problem as well.... any solutions?

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Oct 2001
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I'm having similar problems with a Dell Dimension bought in Dec '99. Specs are:

PIII 700 Mhz
256 MB RAM
GeForce 256 AGP
SoundBlaster Live Value
Samsung DVD-ROM
Win98 2nd Ed 4.10.2222A

I start the game, it gets to the title screen (I think) and hangs. I get a white rectangle on a black background, some music starts to play and the game hangs. There is a faint hint of the Infogames logo in the white rectangle. CTRL-ALT-DEL says that CIV3 is not responding. I can eventually terminate the program but my desktop is stuck in what appears to be 640x480 and I have to restart the machine. I suspect a conflict with the sound card but not sure where to start troubleshooting.

I can run the Civ3 editor with no problems. Just not the game. 8-(

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Denver, Colorado
Mar 1999
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  Old Post 01-11-2001 04:33
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This may (or may not) be related to the problems that I have been experiencing - I would refer you to the 3 Technical Problems thread.

Basically it involved reducing the number of fonts in your fonts directory below about 256.

I had to also reduce the amount of background applications to get my system resources to an"acceptable point"

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Oct 2001
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In my C:/Windows/Fonts directory I have 238 fonts so its something else (at least for me).

DarthRosie is offline DarthRosie
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Nov 2001
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I'm int he same boat - open, show title screen, title screen closes. Played for hours with things, still no luck. I even bought a new monitor (cause my old one didn't support 1024x768). Been an expensive game
System:
AMD K6-2 500
~400Meg Ram
Voodoo3 3000
Mosnter Sound MX400
...and since I get no error message when the title screen closes, I can't figure out exactly WHAT is causing this. Really frustrating - since I would like to play, and don't want to return it.
If anybody solves this problem, let us all know.

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Prince
Loud Cow Productions
Oct 2001
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Same problemo, except mine just freezes... The computer was built to be an incredably stable audio computer for commercial music production and now I've gone a f'd it up...

PII 333Hz
300 megs ram
2x 20gb hard drives
cd burner and a cd player
ATI Rage Fury Pro
Gina by Event Electronics (high-end sound card)


more sad then mad...

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Silver Spring, MD
Oct 2001
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I was having two of the problems mentioned here:

(1) the game often wouldn't start, or crashed as soon as I tried to leave the first game set-up screen.

(2) Much of the text was running together, and was not lined up properly on the preferences screen.

I followed the suggestions I saw here--strip down all but the essential two programs that are running in the background, and pare down the fonts in the Windows/Fonts directory. (After copying the full set to a separate location to reinsert later.)

It worked. I don't have my home computer specs with me--I'm at work--but I wanted people to know that this might help if you haven't tried it yet. (When a new game comes out, there's nothing worse than hurry-up-and-wait.)

Many thanks to those who posted these ideas. You ended my frustration, and I hope that of many others. Good luck to those still struggling!

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Nov 2001
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I have an IBM Thinkpad 570E running W2K Pro and I had the same problem running the game. I would double click civilization3.exe, the cd would spin up, a brief flash of music would play and the introduction/title screen would flash for about a second. Then suddenly I was back to the Windows desktop.

After many hours of troubleshooting and reading forum posts with no success, I installed a backup hard drive which had a fresh install of W2K Pro with the exact same video card and monitor drivers. After instlalling the new drive I installed Civ3 and ran the game the first time without any problems. I was absolutely shocked because after hours of troubleshooting on my original installation and reading all the negative posts I was certain that Civ3 was incompatible with my hardware.

I have gone back and forth between the two hard drives after reading the forums and can find nothing that will fix my original installation. I uninstalled almost every application I could find and still could not get Civ3 to work on the original drive (yes, I checked the fonts).

I wish I could be more help but if you have an extra hard drive laying around, you might want to consider installing Civ3 on a clean OS installation if all else fails. It worked for me and a friend of mine.

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Settler

Nov 2001
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Yes, once I back up all the crap on my hard drive that is too annoying/rare to find again, I'm going to do a fresh install. I sent off a quick note to tech support, and they relayed to me most of the information available in these forums. However, I am guessing the cause of this is some silly little file or registry item buried away under mounds of crap that was done ages ago by me/automatically by computer, and is causing a conflict. Which nobody will ever find So I'm just going to reinstall everything - 10:1 it'll work.

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Nov 2001
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OK, welcome to messed up land, starring me & CIV3. I got it running (i had the problem where the title screen would open, access drive, then shut down - with no errors. Nothing worked to fix it).

Well, I fixed it, in a really odd manner.

Now, I haven't gone beyone opening the main title screen with the option to start a new game, but it's gotten me this far, and I'm almost positive it will work.

Head on over to gamecopyworld.
http://www.gamecopyworld.com/

From there you can download the fixed .exe for civilization3. I believe it might be a no-cd patch, but mine access the cd for some reason when I play it.

I have no idea WHY this is working - it was really on a whim that I did this, thinking that I had a problem with my CD, but it worked nonetheless.

NOW, I'M OFF TO PLAY SOME DAMN CIV3!!!!!

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The Glorious Land of Canada
Jul 2000
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Guys, I think I've found a missing link. But I need confirmation. Please tell me what speed CD-ROM drive you are using and not being able to access the game. This could be the clue......

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Nov 2001
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I tried my 32 & my 40 or 50 (i forget - and it's not written on it). Neither worked. Until I did that silly work around - which isn't the best because I can't watch wonder movies & stuff like that. If anybody find a real solution, I'll still be happy to use it - I'm just happy I can play the game - even though I munch at it.

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Oct 2001
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Originally posted by xiskool
I have an IBM Thinkpad 570E running W2K Pro and I had the same problem running the game. I would double click civilization3.exe, the cd would spin up, a brief flash of music would play and the introduction/title screen would flash for about a second. Then suddenly I was back to the Windows desktop.



In the readme it mentions something on improving the bink video playback performance by replacing the bink dll file on your hard drive with the one on the CD. I think this fixed someones problem once.

The other thing is the monitor profiles...some people think Civ3 trys a video mode that your monitor can't handle if you don't have the correct monitor inf file installed. (I think this applies to the grabbled text thou).

See if any of these are the problem...

LZ

Ignis Fatuus is offline Ignis Fatuus
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Nov 2001
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Darth Rosie
Sounds like you were experiencing the dreaded Safedisc2 "can't play the game eventhough I bought it and it is not copied/pirated syndrome". That is why when you downloaded the fixed.exe the game will work. I am having the same problem but don't have a program to unzip the .ace file that the fixed.exe is compressed with.

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Nov 2001
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Ignis:
http://www.winace.com/mirror.html
Download winace there - very nice program actually. Much prettier than that winzip stuff It'll do the job you're looking for.

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Nov 2001
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Darthrosie,
WOW! Thanks a lot. I am downloading it now. I looked all over the net 2 days ago and couldn't find a valid download site to get this program. Thanks again.

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Durham, NC
Oct 2001
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I figured out the problem I was having (and it was simple really). Apparantly my PC doesn't like the opeining movie. I just wait for it to start and tap like crazy on the key. I have a half to three second window to stop the movie before it kills my machine. After I get past the movie, a haven't had any problems other than it seems to run a little slow, but not so bad as to make the game unplayable.

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Cape Girardeau, Missouri
Jun 2001
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The game freezes up on me every time at the begining screen before the movie. I get an error message - Civilization 3 has caused an error in ~DF394B.TMP Civilization 3 will now close.

I will post my system specs.

Time of this report: 11/3/2001, 16:04:25
Machine name: OEMComputer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows ME (4.90, Build 3000)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model: VT8363
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~1133MHz
Memory: 256MB RAM
Page File: 85MB used, 1706MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 4.08.00.0400
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type:
DAC type:
Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0110&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_B2\000800
Display Memory: 63.5 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 720 (32 bit)(optimal refresh rate)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: nvdisp.drv
Driver Version: 4.13.01.1241 (English)
DDI Version: 8 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/17/2001 11:23:42, 105888 bytes
Driver Certified: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: *vdd
Mini VDD: nvmini.vxd
Mini VDD Date: , 0 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4250-11CF-6967-012010C2C935}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0110
SubSys ID: 0x00000000
Revision ID: 0x00B2
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

Anyone else having similar probelms?

Shadowstrike is offline Shadowstrike
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The Glorious Land of Canada
Jul 2000
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Well, if you have to use this work around, what you can do is copy the whole CD to your hard drive, then install Civ3. I'm getting sound, wonder pics, the whole works.

Missourian, have you tried checking what that file is? My guess would probably be a software error of some sort, but I have little skill in these matters.

Ignis Fatuus is offline Ignis Fatuus
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Nov 2001
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Missourian,
This is I beleive another case where someone is unable to get by the Safedisc2 copy protection. If you have a burnt disc, then whoever burned it did not patch it first with the fixed.exe patch. If you are having these problems with the original game disc, then go to www.gamecopyworld.com and d/l the fixed.exe patch and run it from there.

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Oct 2001
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Yeah my machine consistently locks up while it's loading. All I see is the title screen(no movie). After about 5 seconds of reading the cd my mouse just stops (total lock up).

I called Tech support for 25 minutes.

No luck.

I think the system requirements should be expanded:

300mHz processor
32 megs of ram
DX 8 compatable videio and driver card
1024x768 monitor
Won't work on your machine at all, Nick, even though you have all of these things.

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Oct 2001
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If you are having these problems with the original game disc, then go to www.gamecopyworld.com and d/l the fixed.exe patch and run it from there.


thanks, gonna check it out...
I'm pessimistic though.

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Oct 2001
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

YES WOO HOO YEE HAW!!!!!
The game runs thanks to this fixed.exe file.
A helpful tip:

IF YOU NEED TO BYPASS THE INTRO MOVIE, GO TO:
civ3/art/movies and RENAME intro.blk to intro.old.
The game can't see it so it skips it.

In the CIV3.INI file, you can TURN ALL SOUND OFF BEFORE THE GAME LOADS

TYPE IN THIS TEXT FILE, right after the opening brackets (case sensitive)

"NoSound=1"

Honestly I hope some of this helps somebody.
I got a nasty phone bill commin.'

and to think, if I had been patient I could have saved $30 by simply watching the Apolyton site.

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Jun 2001
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It was a bad exe file the fixed one works like a charm. Thanks alot

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Oct 2001
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I went to gamecopyworld via the link above. I could not find anything for Civ3. Can one of you who has dl'd the fixed.exe post a direct link to it or arrange to make the file available your self? I believe this may be what is causing my problem as it is a dell dvd drive i am trying to play it on.
thanks
chris

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Well I found it and dl'd it and even with a minimum install and cd not in drive the game plays. feel bad about using that exe but it now works and i can use what i shelled out for.
thanks
chris

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