31-10-2001 01:01									#1
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Just wondering if any of you merkins out there who have civ 3 played deity yet? How does the AI kick your arse? Do they send over waves and waves of armour and heavy bombers to pummel your spearmen equipped with shiittty sticks and harsh language? Do you get massive battles and Barbarossa style warfare with mass casualties?

	31-10-2001 03:16									#2
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Good question, if somewhat provocative.

I wonder where the people are who said they would break Deity within 24 hours?

Last edited by Comrade Tribune on 31-10-2001 at 05:22

	31-10-2001 03:31									#3
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I don't have the game yet so my clock is in a holding pattern.

	31-10-2001 03:45									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune I wonder where the people are who said they would break Diety within 24 hours?

Wrong side of the Atlantic, can't get the game yet

	31-10-2001 04:09									#5
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LOL if people claim that they can break Deity in 24 hours they have their head so far up their own arse it's popping out their stomach. I'm playing on PRINCE (Regent) and I have my hands full, and I'm not exactly a bad player...

	31-10-2001 05:21									#6
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Did really no one play on Deity yet?

Come on, the first who kills himself on Deity for the sake of AI evaluation will get a favourable mention by your Comrade.

	31-10-2001 05:26									#7
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i think to even have a chance on deity, we will have to wade through the 250 page manual if we are going to just jump right into it. who is going to do that? hehe

	31-10-2001 05:30									#8
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I've already read the important parts of it, and playing the game hands-on gives a much better tutorial anyway IMO...

	31-10-2001 05:48									#9
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My first game was at Diety and it didn't last too terribly long. I managed to establish a four cities before getting wiped out by a Barbarian invasion. I had about 5 Barbarian riders appear next to each one of my cities, and they went to town until I was totally wiped out. I guess difficulty determines barbarian activity as well as the barbarian setting at the start. Time to give it another go...

	31-10-2001 06:03									#10
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Are you sure that the barbarian riders weren't you own citizens rebelling? Same thing happens in CTP2. Maybe that stuff happens on Deity.

	31-10-2001 06:08									#11
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Well, it's nice to know that the game isn't a "push over" on the Diety level!

	31-10-2001 06:13									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Knight I had about 5 Barbarian riders appear next to each one of my cities, and they went to town until I was totally wiped out.

You mean they sytematically razed all your towns?

Well, at least we have one player brave enough to challenge Deity. Be sure to tell us of your next game!

	31-10-2001 06:33									#13
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The Best Way To Break Diety is to use Kill Civ Option in the Cheat Menu

	31-10-2001 06:38									#14
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Hopefully there isn't a "cheat menu" in the game...but if I know programmers...

	31-10-2001 06:49									#15
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I'm a born victim! Second try at Diety goes as follows....

Trying as the Germans again, I found manage to found four cities, but I get behind pretty fast due to bad terrain placement. Fortunately, Berlin and Liepzig are well placed and they get pretty big fast. I manage to pump out enough shields on the Colossus to complete the Great Library pretty quickly when I develop Literature and switch over. With the G.L. built, I manage to snag a LOT of technologies and catch up very quickly in the science race. Catherine of the Russians then gets very angry with me and demands I hand over Hamburg. I refuse, and she declares war, sending a hefty army at my hapless city. Fortunately, my Elite Spearsmen make a dramatic stand and Catherine's attack is halted. So, rather than pound her head against a wall, she establishes an anti-German alliance with the French, English and Iroquois all within two turns. I get attacked from four directions, Berlin is put under siege and I am knocked out before 600 BC.

Time to tone it down for the next try.

	31-10-2001 06:57									#16
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One other thing...

Diplomacy, even at Diety, seems to be very even and balanced. The other civs seemed very willing to trade, and I didn't have to give away obscenely painful consessions to get something I wanted. Heck, I got Iron Working off the Iroquois for 90 gold and a map, allowing me to gear up for a run on the Great Library. Negotiating at war was similarly interesting. Catherine wasn't willing to let me off the hook once her alliance had me on the ropes. Even after taking Hamburg, she would only agree to a cease fire if I were to give up Liepzig as part of the deal. I disagreed, and she ended up taking it anyway. At least it didn't go without a fight.

	31-10-2001 07:06									#17
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The Operation Barbarossa style mass invasions sound cool! I reckon building tons of defensive units is going to be essential to just "survive" on deity level.

Just another 16 days to wait and I'll be getting my butt happily kicked on deity too....

Are there any other players/civ2 veterans tackling deity too?

	31-10-2001 07:06									#18
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All I can say is ... WOW!!!

Diety will be a challenge after all!!

	31-10-2001 15:22									#19
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some people reported being slaughtered in pretty much the same fashion on regent level too

	31-10-2001 16:41									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Doctor Bob The Operation Barbarossa style mass invasions sound cool! I reckon building tons of defensive units is going to be essential to just "survive" on deity level. Just another 16 days to wait and I'll be getting my butt happily kicked on deity too.... Are there any other players/civ2 veterans tackling deity too?

Yessss another 16 days *can't wait*

I want to have my ass kicked.

This sounds soooo great

	31-10-2001 17:02									#21
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I went straight to deity level on civ 2. If I can't do that with civ 3 that would be great.

	31-10-2001 17:59									#22
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Yesterday I played on Diety and Emporer level as the Greeks. Ouch. Let me tell you something, the Babylonians reproduce like rabits. Oh, and don't do max number of civs on a map untill you got things figured out. Oh, and by the way, for you warmongers, nukes no longer destroy all military units in each city. Instead they have a 50% chance of destroying each individual unit.

Yeah, its hard, but once I get my science going I'll be buggying with the big boys.

	31-10-2001 18:15									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Knight I'm a born victim! Second try at Diety goes as follows.... Trying as the Germans again, I found manage to found four cities, but I get behind pretty fast due to bad terrain placement. Fortunately, Berlin and Liepzig are well placed and they get pretty big fast. I manage to pump out enough shields on the Colossus to complete the Great Library pretty quickly when I develop Literature and switch over. With the G.L. built, I manage to snag a LOT of technologies and catch up very quickly in the science race. Catherine of the Russians then gets very angry with me and demands I hand over Hamburg. I refuse, and she declares war, sending a hefty army at my hapless city. Fortunately, my Elite Spearsmen make a dramatic stand and Catherine's attack is halted. So, rather than pound her head against a wall, she establishes an anti-German alliance with the French, English and Iroquois all within two turns. I get attacked from four directions, Berlin is put under siege and I am knocked out before 600 BC. Time to tone it down for the next try.

That's strange that you say that you got slammed by the Russians, because that happened to me too. I was playing the Germans as well (love that Military and Science combo), and she threatens me all of the time. It must be a cultural thing.