31-05-2000 18:57									#1
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This is probably basic to everyone but me:

I'm new to civ2 scenario design (but I have
read the design tips on the scenario league
page) and I'm trying to use Blackclove's
instructions to create a scenario with
several separate tech trees.

I can edit advances using the MGE advances
editor, but this doesn't allow the "once removed", "twice removed" tricks. When I
use a text editor to edit rules.txt (being
*very* careful about format and spacing)
I always seem to have civ2 crash when it
tries to start my scenario.

Does it matter *which* text editor I use?
Or does this mean I accidentally made
a loop or didn't make FutureTech available?

I wish civ2 would say what is wrong, instead
of crashing with a message about trying to
do an illegal operation.

Any ideas?
Thanks!

	01-06-2000 09:43									#2
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Hmm...it crashes your system eh....well make sure that everything, i.e. AI value pre-req's are placed correctly and are within acceptable paramaters, and if you haven't done so already you should download the latest patch for your version of civ 2.....how i wish someone would create a new scenerio editor for civ 2...oh well...

	31-05-2000 22:11									#3
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could ya send me a copy of the rules.txt you are useing? i would like to take a look at it.

thanks

	01-06-2000 07:04									#4
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Crashes like that are almost allways tech tree related. In most cases the abbreviation for a perequistite tech is wrong. Case matters, Col will crash your system but CoL will not. Nil is another no-no.

The best way to trouble shoot this is to copy the techs from the original Civ2 tech tree over your @CIVILIZE section. Then paste in your tech tree three or four lines at a time (checking the game after each paste) until you find the problem lines(s).

	01-06-2000 12:41									#5
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it will also crash if you forget to put a comma where it should be
look next to your entry for factory
put that , where it should be and the rules will work just fine

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[This message has been edited by myrlyn (edited June 01, 2000).]

	01-06-2000 19:48									#6
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Thanks for the help! Aaagh..
My kingdom for a comma.

I have a little Perl program that will
read a Rules.txt and then lets me query
it to find out:

the tree of a tech
what is reachable from a certain tech (nil, or a normally unreachable tech)

Now that I know the problem I updated it
to print a warning if it detects a missing
comma. Thanks!!!!!!!

	01-06-2000 19:51									#7
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Thanks for the help! Aaagh..
My kingdom for a comma.

I have a little Perl program that will
read a Rules.txt and then lets me query
it to find out:

the tree of a tech
what is reachable from a certain tech (nil, or a normally unreachable tech)

Now that I know the problem I updated it
to print a warning if it detects a missing
comma. Thanks!!!!!!!