31-10-2001 19:01									#1
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Something just doesn't seem to be adding up in the ancient era research rates.

But its been so long since I have played any CIV games besides SMAC, maybe I am missing something.

I guess what I want to know is- how is tech cost and research rate all calculated, and what exactly is the cerrelation to the costs listed in the editor?

	31-10-2001 19:15									#2
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Yeah... I'm wondering about this too. Writing, for example, always seems to cost me around 30 turns whether my science rate is at 10% 3 beakers, or 90% 12 beakers. I'm not sure how this is adding up. Wouldn't the strategy be to just put it at 10% and just buy tech from everyone else? I'm playing at monarch level.

	31-10-2001 20:16									#3
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I had the same experience on Regent. I think it is due to perhaps a minumum research rate as long as you are spending money, because after I switched to Monarchy I was able to research faster by spending more money. In other words, with my initial wimpy cities I was not able to produce enough research to get techs faster than every 32 turns. I did set my research to 10% and research at the rate of every 32 turns which appears to be a minimum rate (as long as I spent at least some money). I used the cash I made to negotiate and did ok with techs. Once I went to Monarchy I was able to start getting techs a lot faster.

	31-10-2001 20:47									#4
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quote: Originally posted by VisionV I had the same experience on Regent. I think it is due to perhaps a minumum research rate as long as you are spending money, because after I switched to Monarchy I was able to research faster by spending more money. In other words, with my initial wimpy cities I was not able to produce enough research to get techs faster than every 32 turns. I did set my research to 10% and research at the rate of every 32 turns which appears to be a minimum rate (as long as I spent at least some money). I used the cash I made to negotiate and did ok with techs. Once I went to Monarchy I was able to start getting techs a lot faster.

Even faster with Republic!

	31-10-2001 21:32									#5
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yes it defintely lookslike you have to get to monarchy or republic or ANYTHING if yuo want research to go along any faster than a snails pace.

Im going to ty researching direct for monarhcy, until I get there Im gonna build military and take what I can near me to get territory. Then when get the advance concentrate on some other things.

Sure wont be able to stay on a war footing at all times...

	31-10-2001 21:57									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Stretch yes it defintely lookslike you have to get to monarchy or republic or ANYTHING if yuo want research to go along any faster than a snails pace.

Playing the Greeks, I start out with Bronze Making and Alphabet.

So, right from the start, I can already build my UU (hoplites) and have one of the five advances needed for the Republic.

Sweet!