01-11-2001 03:25									#1
	Editor is a POS Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Got the purty tin box, put it in and, fired 'er up...

Good old, earth map...what better place to start...? Hmm, no 'Historical or Random' starting positions...ahh, must be a later screen...

BAH! What I thought was the Thames turned out to be the Ganges...surely they can't expect us to set such things in the Editor, can they??

Out of the game, into editor. Note the lack of an EVENTs option like in FW...

Hmmm....hrrMMMmmm....

PEOPLE: How do I set specific starting locations in the editor???!!! All I can do is change the random start area!

HEEELLLPP!!

	01-11-2001 03:30									#2
	Remove this text

YOU CAN'T

	01-11-2001 03:32									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Maybe start a petition for Firaxis/Infogrames to open source the savegame format and the editor? I asked Firaxis that very question a few months back


....they never answered....

	01-11-2001 04:01									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Comparison Between Civ 2 FW/MGE and Civ III

Civ 2
-Had scenarios, easily editable everything
-multiple EASILY ACCESSIBLE zoom levels
-Stable in Windows, so you could run napster, wordperfect, Internet Explorer in the background.
-Had historical starting spots on a good earth map. With Julius B.'s diplomap, you could play on a really good huge map
-poor graphics

Civ3
-no real scenario editor despite what was said
-earth map is an abortion
-NO HISTORICAL STARTING SPOTS!! Not even the ability to set them..
-It took me 3 hours to figure out how to use the 2 level zoom
-Forget about multitasking
-very nice graphics. I have no graphical complaints about the game (the absolute last consideration in a civ game)
-The resource model of trading is very cool, better than the old caravans.


Final Analysis: Hopefully, an expansion will make the game good for something besides random map play.

	01-11-2001 04:06									#5
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

It's odd isn't it? The editor is only good for tweaking things and the map o' Earth sucks. But the game play is pretty good so far (almost finished a full game).

	01-11-2001 04:13									#6
	Support Apolyton

How do you zoom in the editor? I can't find it anywhere?

D

	01-11-2001 04:20									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Youre right, the single player, random map experience is perfect, but to play with anything else so far is worse than civ2

	01-11-2001 05:29									#8
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by dainbramaged13 Youre right, the single player, random map experience is perfect, but to play with anything else so far is worse than civ2

Its ironic, the random map experiences in Civ 2 were 'poor' to say the least. Now in Civ 3, the opposite has occured. Random maps are excellent, but we've lost the ability to control where we start on set maps.

	01-11-2001 05:53									#9
	Remove this text

Welcome to the wonderful world of Civ3...