01-11-2001 12:14									#1
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What's up with the irrigation in this game??
Sometimes my workers just cant irrigate, even though im beside water.
anyone else have this problem?

	01-11-2001 12:17									#2
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Have be beside FRESH water. That is rivers, lakes... not ocean.

	01-11-2001 12:35									#3
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Not bad - actually a good idea.

	01-11-2001 12:38									#4
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Ohhhhhh i see.

Well how do you determine what's an ocean? how big can a patch of water be without it being an ocean?

	01-11-2001 12:41									#5
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Ocean is pretty obvious, I think . You could always left click, I think.

	01-11-2001 12:47									#6
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Ok, in the game im playing now, i have a lake beside a coastal city, about 10 squares vertically, and 3 squares horizontally, yet my worker cant irrigate. whats wrong here?

	01-11-2001 12:51									#7
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You sure that it is fresh water?

Is it forest area?

	01-11-2001 13:23									#8
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yeah, its a lake with "coast" water, and on the top of the lake (no where near where im irrigating) there are about 3 squares of "sea" water.

Yeah, there's a little bit of forest around the area too, but i cant irrigate on the plains or grassland.

	01-11-2001 13:33									#9
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well, if there's sea water in it, it probably counts as a salt water lake. no good for anything except pickled cabbages

	01-11-2001 13:41									#10
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There seems to be some bugs in the info, however, for certain squares. This has already been reported.

	01-11-2001 13:44									#11
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No, the 3 squares of sea water that are in the lake are at the TOP of lake, im trying to irrigate on the bottom of the lake using the COAST water, and ive used that same water to irrigate to my other cities, but it wont work now.

	01-11-2001 13:45									#12
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Look at the image. The lake is being reported as Coast, in which case you might not be able to use it as 'fresh' water. Now as for how you did before and it won't now ... no ideas. But there seems to be some trouble with the comp knowing which water is which.

	01-11-2001 13:46									#13
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will it be possible for me to attach a screenshot and show you guys where i cant irrigate?

	01-11-2001 13:48									#14
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First, is the lake adjacent square reporting "coast" as in this case? That's an important first question. For uploading screens, there's an 'attach file' function at the bottom of your posting screen. Try to keep the file small(ish), however, just for the sake of load times.

	01-11-2001 13:56									#15
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yes, the square adjacent is a "coast square".
so im trying to irrigate on a grassland/plains which are adjacent to a COAST square.

	01-11-2001 13:58									#16
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Alright. Perhaps I am confused. When I think of 'coast' I think of salt water. Am I missing something?

	01-11-2001 14:02									#17
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ok when i try to attach the image it says the picture must be no bigger than 600 X 0

what does that mean? pixels?

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	01-11-2001 14:38									#18
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quote: Ok, in the game im playing now, i have a lake beside a coastal city, about 10 squares vertically, and 3 squares horizontally, yet my worker cant irrigate. whats wrong here?

What you describe is a sea. If memory serves me correctly a lake is only one square large.

	01-11-2001 14:54									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Mannamagnus What you describe is a sea. If memory serves me correctly a lake is only one square large.

So you're saying that i can only irrigate from rivers and one-square lakes? not from the the coast?

	01-11-2001 14:56									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Mannamagnus What you describe is a sea. If memory serves me correctly a lake is only one square large.

That's definitely not how Civ looks at it. In my last game, I had perhaps a 30 square lake surrounded by land. My guess (guess!) is that if any of the water touches the poles, it's ocean. If it doesn't, it's lake.

	01-11-2001 15:08									#21
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quote: That's definitely not how Civ looks at it. In my last game, I had perhaps a 30 square lake surrounded by land. My guess (guess!) is that if any of the water touches the poles, it's ocean. If it doesn't, it's lake.

If you were able to irrigate around that 30 square lake I must have been wrong. I checked the manual and it said nothing constructive about lakes.
Though if you look at a 30 square lake and compare it to the toal size of the world map it would be larger than many seas.

	01-11-2001 15:09									#22
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I'm pretty sure that is an inland ocean

lakes have a different appearance. I have one in my game

I may be wrong, but I think a lake square really is a coast square that is not connected to a sea or ocean square.

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	01-11-2001 17:27									#23
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Good Lord!

Once again, from the dictionary:

quote: coast (kst) n. Land next to the sea; the seashore. Coast The Pacific Coast of the United States.

Now kindly re-read, starting from Imran's post. Enjoy.

	01-11-2001 17:29									#24
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Now from the dictionary of Yin, previously posted:

quote: Alright. Perhaps I am confused. When I think of 'coast' I think of salt water. Am I missing something?

LOL!

	01-11-2001 17:30									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I may be wrong, but I think a lake square really is a coast square that is not connected to a sea or ocean square.

That seems logical, but in the Civilopedia and the manual, "Coast" produces 1/0/2 while "Lake" produces 2/0/2. In the game, both types of terrain are reported with the name "Coast."

However, from my tests, if a Coast is reported as producing 2/0/2 then you can use it to irrigate.

	01-11-2001 20:50									#26
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Do I dare throw out there that the Great Salt Lake is not connected to the poles yet is salt water? Should I? NAAAAAWWWWWW!


-Jack

	01-11-2001 22:00									#27
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 Now from the dictionary of Yin, previously posted: LOL!

I know youŽll flame me for this question, but i REALLY want to know what LOL means...

	01-11-2001 22:08									#28
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LOL = Laugh Out Loud

	01-11-2001 22:10									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich LOL = Laugh Out Loud

thanx man!!