01-11-2001 21:01									#1
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Which unit do you think should be created?

PS: I know some of you/us are very dissapointed with the exclusion of the hispanic world in civ3 but think for a sec what a good lesson would be to demonstrate them with facts their terrible mistake.

	01-11-2001 22:03									#2
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I guess the guys at Firaxis would consider something like conquistadores or falangists. Does anybody know the special unit for the Germans? I sure bet it's something like panzers

	01-11-2001 22:21									#3
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Waku: no t'entendio, pisha

Stefan, I think it actually is a Panzer

	01-11-2001 22:32									#4
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Tercios, of course. As a second choice, think on Conquistadores.

	02-11-2001 00:33									#5
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I agree with jasev, it should be tercios,

but if firaxis ever does the spanish civ i´m sure that it will be conquistadores,

	02-11-2001 01:46									#6
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Tercios... that's one thing I have thought of as well... but I will bet with you for any price that's what they won't be. That'd be as if the german unit would be something like order knights or axethrowers

	02-11-2001 02:40									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Stefan Härtel Tercios... that's one thing I have thought of as well... but I will bet with you for any price that's what they won't be.

Well, this is what this thread is all about ( JB)

	02-11-2001 03:36									#8
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I see, Then I'm for the Tercios too. The most formidable war machine on Earth until the advent of the cannon in mid XVII century.

	02-11-2001 04:05									#9
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quote: The most formidable war machine on Earth until the advent of the cannon in mid XVII century.

We shall argue about that some day

	02-11-2001 04:17									#10
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	02-11-2001 04:17									#11
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he, he, even the word cannon is taken from Spanish. Call it the revenge of the not-so-minnows-anymore

What kind of Persian army were you thinking about instead, Stefan?

	02-11-2001 05:37									#12
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Hehe... when I was writing that I thought of the Roman Legions and the Macedonian Phalanges, but realizing that both were beaten in battle, I came to think that only those who have been trained for war all their life would build the strongest war machinery.
My vote would go to the Sacan (otherwise known as Scythian) nomad hordes. They spent nearly all their lives on their horses, and by thinking it to be unhonouralbe to die of natural causes (i.e. not being killed in battle) they were ready to risk everything... a type of fanatism we have learnt to know in our times too well. They were the only ones who were able to defeat the rising powers of the Persians and later of the Macedonians... think of it, Alexander the Great was defeated only once in his life by some horsemen of unknown distinct with no leadership. They didn't even have battle lines but encircled their enemies virtually from nowhere, created a massacre and dissapeared again.
That's a long speech, I know

	02-11-2001 06:37									#13
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I vote for the Tercios as well.

And I think we can all agree that the Tercios were the most formidable war machine on Earth from circa 1525 to 1643...

	02-11-2001 06:54									#14
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Excuse my ignorancia... que carajo eran los tercios estos?

	02-11-2001 07:00									#15
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Hostia, no has oído hablar de los Tercios de Flandes?

Básicamente, eran la infantería española de la época, que luchaban en cuadros compuestos de piequeros y arcabuceros o (más tarde) mosqueteros.

Vamos, los típicos soldados ataviados con calzas horteras y abultadas y con el típico morrión español en la cabeza. Como los que dibujamos kIndal y yo...

	02-11-2001 11:58									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera I vote for the Tercios as well. And I think we can all agree that the Tercios were the most formidable war machine on Earth from circa 1525 to 1643...

If you ask me they stopped being a formidable war machine a little earlier, what happened in 1643 was just the "confirmation" that they indeed where outdated.
But then again, I speak for the inventors of light artillery (in the same war), so I might not be totaly objective on this

	02-11-2001 14:04									#17
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Ok, Tercios.

How did they look?

	02-11-2001 18:18									#18
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Nice models, BTW

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	02-11-2001 23:48									#19
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Hey Stefan, that one sounds pretty familiar to me. Why would it be?

	03-11-2001 02:17									#20
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I always bore it in my mind

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	03-11-2001 09:42									#21
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Hostias, macho! Esta animación vale paar el Civ3?

Pásasela a MarkG y que la ponga en el forum de Civ3 files ya!

	03-11-2001 11:44									#22
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Calm down, calm down

es sólo una modificación y además faltan mogollón de frames todavía

	03-11-2001 18:00									#23
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Una modificación del legionario de Civ3, o de una figura de otro juego?

De todas formas pienso que tiene una pinta estupenda...

	03-11-2001 19:15									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Una modificación del legionario de Civ3?

del explorador

quote: Originally posted by Fiera De todas formas pienso que tiene una pinta estupenda...

*blushes*
gracias pero te aseguro que en cuanto los artistas de civ2 que andan por aquí le metan mano a las unidades, ésta será pura anécdota (si es que la termino), además probablemente dé algún problema por la movida de los colores de la civilización (determinadas partes de la unidad deben ser del color de la civ)...

	03-11-2001 22:21									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Waku gracias pero te aseguro que en cuanto los artistas de civ2 que andan por aquí le metan mano a las unidades, ésta será pura anécdota (si es que la termino), además probablemente dé algún problema por la movida de los colores de la civilización (determinadas partes de la unidad deben ser del color de la civ)...

Eso se hace con una cosa que se llama alpha channel, creo. Seguramente ese formato (pcx, no?) tenga dos colores transparentes, o uno transparente y otro semitransparente.

	03-11-2001 22:44									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Eso se hace con una cosa que se llama alpha channel, creo. Seguramente ese formato (pcx, no?) tenga dos colores transparentes, o uno transparente y otro semitransparente.

alpha channel? never heard of it.
el formato es flc y tiene toda la pinta de que sea como dices 1 transp y otro semitransp. De todas formas he decido seguir adelante hasta tener un flic completo, ver si furula y si va bien ponerle las transparencias luego.

(¿transparencias ? )

	05-11-2001 16:04									#27
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Oye Guaku, no se si es lafa chanel, aunque eso crei yo que era una colonia, pero tu dibu animado es magnifico... por cierto me parece aque a ti no te he citado como que te quiera ver... es el no dormir lo q me hace estar espeso, a ti tambien te visitaré aunque me tenga que vestir de sevillana, ja,ja,ja

	06-11-2001 02:22									#28
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quote: Originally posted by alf eso crei yo que era una colonia

quote: Originally posted by alf a ti tambien te visitaré aunque me tenga que vestir de sevillana, ja,ja,ja

¡gulp!
aunque... yo eso no me lo pierdo

	06-11-2001 03:06									#29
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Cuento contigo para la próxima feria de Abril, Alf, serás la sensación de la caseta