23-06-2000 05:35									#1
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Here is a Mark V tank drawn in the time-honored style of the venerable Nemo. What do you think? Nix the machine gun?
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	23-06-2000 06:46									#2
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Are you copying Fast Eddie's post? Tsk, tsk!

Looks good, maybe show the steps? IMHO, I think the machine gun is fine. Next time somebody's gonna have to do "Learn to Draw Infantry like Alex the Magnificent"!

	23-06-2000 08:10									#3
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I couldn't resist the urge to compare that same unit I drew a year ago for Alex's Russian Civil War...




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	23-06-2000 08:37									#4
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Do you guys have to use BMPs? They show up as broken images in Netscape.

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	23-06-2000 14:41									#5
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Next time somebody's gonna have to do "Learn to Draw Infantry like Alex the Magnificent"!

Interested in seeing my Elamite Archer for "Darius version 2.2"?

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	23-06-2000 16:11									#6
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That's why I put the TM

Nemo, I've been dying to get a look at Alex' scen. I don't think it will ever be released

I went back to some of your other tanks to see how you drew treads, but realized that none of your WW2 tanks have any. That was the hardest part of the picture. Have you posted that picture before? If I had seen it I wouldn't have made my own.

As far as infantry like Alex, I just take a unit he's made and change it a bit. Leave the post, just add some flourishes and different colors.

	23-06-2000 17:41									#7
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I'm not a good designer, but it seems a nice handwork to me!!! I usually grab my images - bas-reliefs, books, pictures...
I grabbed a lot of historical pictures from TV once, using an luckily-arranged-on program ( a close friend of mine - an electronic engineer - made that "stuff": he asked me to test on my PC - guess what kind of pictures he wanted to grab from TV... - and it nearly fired my machine, but it worked !!!! )... but now i don't want to use that stuff once more ; i promised to my father, no more !!!!
Where can i learn to draw pictures on the Net?
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	24-06-2000 09:31									#8
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By the way, i snapped a Sherman from "Ardennes". If you're interested in, my e-mail is

fratelli.goddi@tiscalinet.it

I still have not a site of mine... so just ask.
P.S. I've found a way to rip-off units from "Panzer General 2"...
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	24-06-2000 00:18									#9
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If anyone is interested: I have a good assembly of colour pictures of numerous tanks and war machines as well as uniforms from the 20th century (it came with the -to me more interesting- automobiles from the catalogue of the automobile museum Sinsheim). I've gotta scan them if you want, but they might be helpful if anything's lacking.

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	24-06-2000 00:36									#10
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I'm interested at that, Stefan ... check the e-mail.

	24-06-2000 02:35									#11
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Mine had step-by-step instructions. So ha!

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	24-06-2000 02:54									#12
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Please send me the mail again, my mailbox was full.
Further, please tell me exactly which ones you want- I guess I have like 40 images or more!

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	24-06-2000 05:19									#13
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Michael,
I do think yours is very good. I like the hand drawn pictures so much better than the scanned ones because they are more consistent. For example the HiRes package has some fantastic looking units but they look like they are taken from 30 different sources which doesn't look so good as a whole. I did quite a few scanned pictures before I realized that I spent far more time cleaning them up to the level I wanted than I would spend drawing them from scratch. Now I use a bunch of pictures as "models" but I draw it all by hand.

BTW Alex's Russian Civil War has a great collection of units AND terrain both the ToT version and the FW version... It has armored trains that work (Special trick...) I made a couple of tanks, armored cars and the trains for him... I surely hope he finishes it... If not he should at least make the units available (It would be sad to see them lost)

	24-06-2000 14:43									#14
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Said & done...

My e-mail is fratelli.goddi@tiscalinet.it .

I'm searching for mechanized artillery ( ex. German Nashorn - i'm not sure about spelling - or American Kangaroo kind ).

	25-06-2000 09:37									#15
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techumseh and I have offered in English and Russian to help him with whatever is needed to finish the scenario. But all he ever gave us was cryptic answers. I would love to see more of the units too, if the ones on his website are any indication of what is in store.

I imagine from what Alex has said you made the trains naval units. There's another way to do it in ToT, too

	25-06-2000 00:48									#16
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I am really interested in those trains.

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	25-06-2000 04:13									#17
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Prometeus:
The Nashorn was not mechanized artillery but a tank hunter. You might be thinking of the Hummel that looked just like the Nashorn but had a 150mm artillery gun on it. There is one in Redfront, as well as a Wespe (Smaller version w/105mm on PzKw II chassis). I also have an M40 "Long Tom" which was the American heavy SP artillery of 1944-45 in "Second Front".

	25-06-2000 08:35									#18
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Sorry Nemo, my mistake!!!
Pictures on my book are indeed inverted... that what happens on work when guys thinked to more delightful stuff!!!
P.S. i recently snapped a lot of pictures from PZ 2... OOOPS - SAID BEFORE !!!

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	06-07-2000 09:39									#20
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I'm sorry to say this, but all I have are tanks of WW2 and later (except for one built in 1936, the Panzerkampfwagen 3)
But Austrian civil war sounds interesting. All I know about it is that there was one, but I can neither say when nor why... It would be nice if you could tell me something about it.

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	06-07-2000 18:29									#21
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Out of curiosity, what is nemo? I have never heard of it before.

	07-07-2000 05:24									#23
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Plus "nemo" is Latin for "no man" or "no one."

	07-07-2000 19:48									#24
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The Austrian Civil War happened in February 1934. This so-called 'civil war' was a struggle between the Social Democrats and the Austrian government which only lasted for 5 days in fact.
Playing the Social Democrats you would have a hard time defending against the government and you can only win if you survive long enough to call out a general strike. (I don't know yet how to make this, but it should seriously cut down government ressources as all workers go on strike throughout the country)
Playing the government you have to beat the rebels and keep the military powers of Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany from marching in.
You could also play Italy or Germany and try to take control over a bit of Austria or the whole country.
I haven't yet worked it out completely, but that's what I think the scenario would be like.