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Pyrodrew is offline Pyrodrew
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Dec 2000
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Thanks AlmightyBob. You're right historically, the horses shouldn't have been in America. My only excuse is for the Iroquois, whose Unique Unit requires horses (and is useless once magnetism (sail ocean) is discovered). So that effectively makes removes their Unique Units from the game. So with the horses, I was thinking more game balance rather than historically accuracy. Nevertheless, the more I think about it... let the Iroquois suffer.

Regarding resources, chances are there will be 16+ civilizations playing on this map in most games, so I didn't see 11-20 (divided in say about 5 groups of 4) as easy to acquire that resource by any means. Finding even 1 of the 5 civs who have it would be hard enough, much less hoping they haven't traded their extras away by the time you meet them. And some, such as the Ivory, I left in 1 group & only in Africa (except 1 elephant I put in India for Gandi - Mr.WarElephant). As someone stated in another thread oil was quite abundanent at 1 time. Nevertheless, I don't mind any of the changes you made either. Glad you put in the goody huts & barbarian tribes too.

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  Old Post 04-11-2001 18:07
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AlmightyBob: How big is your Earthmap?
(Haven't got Civ3 yet - so have to ask)

But it looks good - I'll have to get the earthmap when I get my copy.

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Nov 2000
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Hey Draco aka Se7eN , just so you know, I was really happy when you said you are making a 250 by 180 earth map!!!

If it's okay with you, I want to use that map for a contemporary world scenario I'm planning. When do you plan to have it finished?


Thanks!!

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Nov 2001
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Ok, I downloaded the second file but when I tried it in civ3edit nothing came up, the map was blank. The first file, though, works.
Strange.

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Nov 2001
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Never mind. Just downloaded the first one and it was the update.

My only problem is - where is the oil in Texas? Even our fine President, , got his money from oil in Texas.

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Dec 2000
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There are 3 to download:
1st one - Bob
2nd one - Pyrodrew
3rd one - Bob

The 3rd one is just an empty ocean map. Not sure what happened there. Bob?

The 2nd one I know there was oil in Alaska & Saudi Arabia... and I put oil in Texas. Russia has heavy oil reserves too & I put 2 there.

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Just one question; is the Civ3 Huge map bigger then the Civ2 (regular, not GE) huge map? Looking at those screenshots, it doesn't seem to be....can someone tell me the exact number of squares for the L and W for both of them so I can compare them? Thanks a bunch.

Sullustan is offline Sullustan
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Nov 2001
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I downloaded and tried to open it in my editor but nothing showed up. Could you post the download again if this is happening to other people?

Also, how many people does this map support, it seems a lot smaller than the huge map that comes with the game, especially alaska! heh

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guys, please edit your posts accordingly so that there is only one version of the map and on the first post

thanks

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Feb 2000
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Also - how come all civs start in Siberia...every time I played on that map (which looks great btw) I started in the same place

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Oct 2000
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  Old Post 05-11-2001 20:00
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Actually, Bob, the native americans had horses before the europeans came, but they hunted them untill they were extinct!

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Nov 2001
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But horses (along with all other large animals) were eliminated from the North American continent before 4000 BC. This was one of the primary reasons, according to Jared Diamond in his book Guns, Germs and Steel, why most of the Native Americans never developed beyond hunter-gathers, even though most in the NE became sedintary.

But once horses arived from Europe those same natives were just as fast as anyone in assimilating them into their culture - eliminating the racist argument.

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Nov 2001
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ok i updated the map the way i was supposed to. I didn't realize I could edit old posts so i deleted the second one (the one that didn't work, ive got no idea what happened there) and i replaced the first post with my new one, hopfully it will work.

orange - you may need to edit the map and edit the starting civ placements, or download the new one, it has all the historical starting places, also i added goody huts and barbarian tribes.

Jeje2 - its the same size as the one in in civ 2, wich is 150 x 120, civ 2 actually reports this as 75 x 120 but the editors report the tile numbers differently and I found this out the hard way when i had to start the map over again after finishing the eastern half of the map and running out of room

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Oct 2001
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  Old Post 06-11-2001 10:29
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Almighty Bob

Does your message to Orange mean that all civs will now start at their historically correct places? Can this be true? Please say 'yes'!!!

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Nov 2001
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Sorry oriel94 that does not mean that the civs will start in thier specific places it means A civ will start in A historc place ie. I just played a game as the germans in england.

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  Old Post 08-11-2001 20:41
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The new map that you have set up a link to isn't the one with starting location and other new stuff that you mentioned.

BTW I was thinking of perhaps having oil in Indo-china and near the phillipines? Oil is also abudant in the northsea nowadays?
I any case there also seems to be a bit low on bonus resources regarding cattle and whales?
Else it is a cool initative you have taken

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Are you sure about that warlon, i just downloaded it to see, and it seems to be the right map to me. Is anyone else having this problem?

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just tried out your map, great work

There is just one thing: when I start a game using your map, the lines between the advances in the science advisor screen is all messed up. There are just a bunch of grey lines going nowhere in particular.

Anyone else experienced this?

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This is how it looks like:

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Nov 2001
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just tried out your map, great work

There is just one thing: when I start a game using your map, the lines between the advances in the science advisor screen is all messed up. There are just a bunch of grey lines going nowhere in particular.

Anyone else experienced this?


I got that when I was testing out the simple scenario I made that fixed the World Size research scores to all 80%

It also gives me the problem of not being able to choose my next advance from there, but having it automatically choose whatever's the default choice.

I think its a problem with the bic files corrupting the X and Y coords of the advances.

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Nov 2001
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That problem with the tech tree happens in ALL custom scenarios/maps that I have seen... you can't make a custom map or screen that this problem doesn't pop up!

It's a problem with Civ3 the game, not with Bob's map!!!

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That problem with the tech tree happens in ALL custom scenarios/maps that I have seen... you can't make a custom map or screen that this problem doesn't pop up!



It's a problem with Civ3 the game, not with Bob's map!!!


Ok, I was afraid of that. Nothing to do, but wait for the patch then I guess.

They better clean up this mess, not much point in trying to make custom stuff when it breaks parts of the game even if you do nothing wrong!!

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Of course since the Fascist Patch changes the core rules and isn't a map or scenario, my Fascist Patch still has a very intact tech tree!!!

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Nov 2001
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I like the map of AlmightyBob very much . The only problem are the starting locations. So I made 4 savegames, where you can start for America, Russia, England or Germany. You and the other three nations start there at the "right" location.

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Nov 2001
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Savegames

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Oct 2001
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Someone please do something so that the civ can start with the right positions !! I restarted more than 20 times so that I play the Japanese in Japan and I still didn't get it. I'm turning MAAAAAD !!!!

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Here you go Bougainville

It is for a Regent game with all 16 civs in the right positions and Japan with the human player.
I used Mortioso's program to do it. It's called CIV Breeder. Any way, I did the save files for each of the 16 civs as human and put it in a zip. But the zip file is too big (2.8 meg). Anyone know how I can post it?

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War4ever is offline War4ever
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is the map conversion any good.....

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Who would want to play as Japan? hehe

Ticktok, can you make the American or English file available for download?

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England:

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