02-11-2001 23:53									#1
	Tax Collectors and Scientists HELP!!! Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

So, I'm playing this game, I'm France, in a democracy, at peace with everyone, only 6 cities, in 1700. I'm at the easiest level (so I suck, ok!).

I wanted to boost my research to get a new technology faster. So I turned a bunch of peasant to scientists. Well, even if I did have scientists, my "science" output for my cities didn't increase. The same thing happened with revenu from taxmen. At best, with one taxmen, I got 1 more coin. I mean in CIV2, under democracy, one taxman would make a good difference, esp. with commerce related infrastructure.....


What am I doing wrong here?

	03-11-2001 00:01									#2
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From the manual:

"Each Taxman produces one gold"

and

"Each Scientist adds one to the raw science production."

	03-11-2001 00:05									#3
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I read the manula quickly, I thaught it said "produces gold" and "produces raw science"

Am I crazy or were tax collectors and scientists more useful in CIV 2?

	03-11-2001 00:09									#4
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quote: Originally posted by friendj From the manual: "Each Taxman produces one gold" and "Each Scientist adds one to the raw science production."

Anyone else feel like this is just plain broken? It used to be a viable strategy to try and max out food production and then convert some extra citizens to taxmen/scientists for a nice boost to income/research. Or even starve the city for a short-term boost. But a measly one gold/science per specialist? Sheesh. Under a republic or democracy, any road square is instantly worth two commerce - so it's pretty simple math to see that specialists no longer pay in comparison to field workers. Was this an attempt to defeat the SSC?

	03-11-2001 00:17									#5
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AMEN!

	03-11-2001 00:32									#6
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I don't seem to be getting any money from Taxes. Is there a way I need to raise the tax rate? I made more taxmen and that didn't work, it still says I am getting zero gold from taxes.

	03-11-2001 00:43									#7
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quote: Originally posted by optimus2861 Anyone else feel like this is just plain broken? It used to be a viable strategy...

It's not "broken", it's CIV 3. A lot of complainers seem to be forgetting that fact. The fact that we have to re-think all of our old strategies is a good thing. If you don't think so, go back and play Civ2 some more.

	03-11-2001 08:48									#8
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I don't want to call this broken, but could somebody please explain something I've observed?

I am playing a game at Warlord, huge map. I have 4 cities with pops 5,5,6,7. I am currently researching The Republic and I wanted to speed research a bit. The problem is, with my science spending at 10% (spending 4 gold) I can complete The Republic in 32 turns. If I increase spending even to 100% (39 gold) it still says it will take 32 turns to research Republic.

I'd like to think this is not broken but I don't understand how I can increase spending 10 fold and not reap any benefit whatsoever.

John-SJ

	03-11-2001 09:05									#9
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John-SJ:

Strategy forum has the answer that you want.
Every technology, no matter how research-intensive, can be finished within 32 turns if you don't change the tech that you research.